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  McFarland Fx W. Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Lorain Ohio, 2016

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  just stumbled across this record of a child abuse case in ohio which apparently went to the ohio supreme court:.

  http://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/9/2016/2016-ohio-5462.pdf.

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  This was an appeal not to the Ohio State Supreme Court but to the State Court of Appeals. It did not concern the case as a whole but rather as to whether the lower court erred when it ordered Watchtower to produce a number of documents. The Court of Appeals ruled against Watchtower's claim of clergy-penitent privilege with the exception of four documents, which it ruled did not have to be produced by Watchtower. It ordered that the majority of the documents requested by McFarland be produced.

  From the child abuse cases against Watchtower that I have read, Watchtower's appeals based on clergy-penitent privilege have failed for the most part. The differences between the states and even between the U.S. and Canada with respect to this privilege do not differ to a great degree.

  Due to the way Watchtower handles these matters by involving elders, judicial committees, the service and legal departments, they rarely stay within the bounds of the clergy-penitent privilege.

  I don't know what became of this 2016 case. I suspect the parties settled because I haven't heard of this case until today. If anyone has an update, I'm sure we would all appreciate hearing more about it.
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  The Atlantic Magazine: A Secret Database of Child Abuse

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't seen reference to this article on the forum, so would like to post a link to an article that was published by the atlantic on 22 march 2019.. .

  https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/03/the-secret-jehovahs-witness-database-of-child-molesters/584311/.

  only factual matter that i could correct is the number of gb members at the time of the australian royal commission - i'm pretty sure it was 7 at that time..

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  It occurs to me that the millions of dollars Watchtower has spent and continues to spend to protect its reputation, is an costly exercise in futility. Its worse days are still ahead.
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  Remember 1992?

  by Tobyjones262 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone remember 1992?

  i can remember i was in the cult.

  times were changing at a rapid pace.

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  In 1995 it became clear that they were making it up as they went along. Up till that time I believed they had a shot.
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  Child sexual abuse suspect arrested in T.O.

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/13/child-sexual-abuse-suspect-arrested-t-o/2305199002/ .

  a 69-year-old thousand oaks man facing multiple sexual abuse charges by the ventura county district attorney’s office was arrested last week, authorities said.. steven skyler abbott was arrested dec. 6 after months of investigation into the reported sexual abuse of two thousand oaks girls, according to the ventura county sheriff’s office.

  in november, the ventura county district attorney’s office filed multiple felony sexual abuse charges against abbott, including two counts of continuous sexual abuse, one count of lewd acts upon a child and one count of forcible lewd acts upon a child.. he is also facing multiple felony enhancements and special allegations related to his charges.. the investigation began in september, when the sheriff’s agency received a report of suspected child crimes.. a 16-year-old victim alleged that she was sexually abused by abbott when she was between the ages of 5 and 11, sheriff’s officials said.. sexual assault unit detectives subsequently identified a second, 24-year-old victim who reported that abbott had abused her when she was between the ages of 3 and 7, authorities said.. the sheriff’s agency said the victims and their families had come into contact with abbott through the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses in newbury park.. investigators submitted their findings to prosecutors, who filed felony sexual abuse charges against abbot on nov. 16, officials said.. on nov. 28, an arrest warrant was issued for abbott.. the suspect was eventually arrested at his home on dec. 6 and booked into ventura county jail.

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  I am getting in touch with an exJW whose JW sister spent some weeks living with the Abbot family while she rebelling from from her JW parents. This girl is now about 34, married and still a Witness. Abbot may have left her alone but in case he molested her, she needs to know about the authorities' invitation to come forward.
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  What are your favorite musical scores in film?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hi guys!.

  this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.

  here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .

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  DOFP: He's not in music but he owns the rights to his grandfather's biography and has been negotiating for a film based on Korngold's life.
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  What are your favorite musical scores in film?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hi guys!.

  this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.

  here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .

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  DOFP: Eric Wolfgang Korngold's grandson is on this board!
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  Simple Question:Why Won’t JWs Just Report Child Abuse As The Law Requires?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just don’t get it.

  it would make their life so much easier!.

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  Prompted by [my] girl next door, the promotion of the organization despite dire consequences to individuals has been in practice since it was devised by Rutherford. As long as the 1914/1918/1919 dates are part of Witness theology (wherein Jesus selected Rutherford and Co.), the GB will continue to follow this practice, as did Knorr/Franz and GB 1.0. Overall, Rutherford’s approach is still profitable. As soon as it’s not, you can expect New Light.

  The good news is that each year this practice is being exposed more and more. As a result, it is proving to be less and less profitable.
  
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  You Bet Your Life

  by DNCall in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is said that life is a gamble.

  when you join a religion, you are wagering some portion of your life.

  you may choose not to risk too much.

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  It is said that life is a gamble.

  When you join a religion, you are wagering some portion of your life. You may choose not to risk too much. A nominal association with a low-demand religion is a safe bet—minimum outlay with the hope of an afterlife. But, if you want to go all in, I would recommend Jehovah’s Witnesses. Once you have accepted and embraced their beliefs, they demand total sacrifice, submission and unquestioning obedience to Jehovah God and His earthly organization. It is a case of forfeiting a comfortable life at present for the possibility of having a future unending life on a paradise earth, or for a relative few, immortality in heaven.

  When religion is not a part of your life, you simply live your life. You are not conforming your life to the demands of an alleged higher power in order to experience an afterlife.

  People of faith argue that atheists, humanists and the like have no hope for the future. Not true.

  For those without religion, there can be hope and (better still) planning for the future of their present life—the only life that is certain. Absent religion, one can still hope for an afterlife—something that, for all we know, may naturally occur. For yet others, like physicist Stephen Hawking, an afterlife is not desired. Hawking was content with the richness of inquiry and discovery he experienced during his lifetime. It was enough for him.

  Perhaps it is more correct to say that life offers opportunities to gamble rather than to say life is a gamble. Most try to navigate these opportunities knowingly and wisely. However, going all in with your entire life, given the stakes and alternatives, is not a smart bet. More to the point, it is a grievous waste of life.
  
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  Only Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do you think of this rant?.

  “jehovah's witnesses are the only true religion.

  this is demonstrated by a slew of true teachings that only jehovah could have revealed to his servants on earth.

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  Your seasoned Witness quoted the Watchtower magazine not the Bible. Just because the Watchtower articles cited are peppered with Bible references doesn't mean that these references support the Witnesses' inbred interpretation. It is a case of going beyond what is written and dressing it up or camoflaging it with Bible references. He's turning to the Watchtower for support, not the Bible.
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  My impressions of the cart witnessing

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.

  the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.

  when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.

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  As I understand it, the public preaching work is still carried out by the majority in much the same way as it always has. There are still preaching demonstrations on the service meeting along with public engagement skills being taught in the ministry school.

  Only a select few in each congregation qualify for the "privilege" of cart witnessing. My impression is that apart from the public ministry, the main purpose of cart witnessing is the promotion of the website, hence little public engagement.