Posts by DNCall

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Our Kingdom Ministry

by NotFormer in

my understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the watchtower and the awake!

looking online, it seems that the wt ceased publication of this in 2016. is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication?

or has it ceased to be?.

DNCall

Re the Kingdom Ministry to Kingdom Service and back to Kingdom Ministry, this had to do with the influence of Ray Franz in the 1970s. During this rare period of reasonableness that he brought to the GB, it was decided that "service" was a more encompassing term than "ministry," as it could include acts of kindness and helpfulness. He also promoted the concept of an "internal ministry." All this could be covered by the word "service." This gained enough traction that "Our Kingdom Service" became the new title.

Then, when Ray was removed, dismissed from the Bethel Family and subsequently disfellowshipped (or as it was mis-described "disassociated"), what reasonableness he contributed was suspended in favor of a "tightening up." It was in this process that the title, "Our Kingdom Ministry" was restored. It was evident that the GB was attempting to undo every bit of work Ray had contributed while serving in the Organization.

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Regional convention 2023

by sove in

jw
friends

any streamed content from this years regional convention available with any of you guys?

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DNCall

I don't believe the promotional video above was created without thought to featuring caucasian models and having it narrated by a man with a Northern European accent. Are countries with predominantly white populations being targeted here? I would imagine most of us can think of reasons why this would be advantageous to WT, mostly monetary.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

DNCall

Scholar: Your arguments are affected by faith. Faith that the Bible is God's Word and faith that the Jehovah's Witnesses are God's chosen organization. The other side relies on the abundance of records preserved from the Neo-Babylonian period. You accept and reject data and evidence so as to agree with the position taken by Jehovah's Witnesses. So long as this is the case, your scholarship will be hampered and you will not be well informed.

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Meet Olivia Newton-John's Grandfather, Max Born

by DNCall in

olivia's maternal grandfather fled htiler's germany in 1933. he was one of the founders of quantum mechanics and a close friend of albert einstein.

it was max born who famously wrote: "the belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it, seems to me the deepest root of all that is evil in the world.

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DNCall

Olivia's maternal grandfather fled Htiler's Germany in 1933. He was one of the founders of quantum mechanics and a close friend of Albert Einstein. It was Max Born who famously wrote: "The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it, seems to me the deepest root of all that is evil in the world."

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The Major League Baseball All-Star Game.....And, An Assembly

by titch in

folks: well, here in the united states, tonight, july 19th, is when the mlb all-star game will be played.

and, it will be played at dodger stadium, in los angeles, california.

for those of you who don't know, the all-star game is a game in which members of the american league teams compete with members of the national league teams.

DNCall

You and me both Dagney. I was in the orchestra. The Sunday session ended early so we had time to get home to watch Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. Snoozing through the All Star game as I write this.

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Michael Jackson Jehovah's Witness Thriller

by researcher1010 in

i'm a reporter working on a series about michael jackson.

part of this series will look at his life as a jehovah's witness and his relationship to the faith.

i've already spoken to a few ex-witnesses and one elder who have explained jw 101 beliefs and teachings.

DNCall

Michael was associated with the East Woodland Hills (or possibly West Woodland Hills) Congregation in California. You might contact the elders there as I believe both congregations still are intact. If I can remember the elder’s name who was assigned to him, I’ll post later.

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ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...

by BoogerMan in

straight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.

30 secs.

point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.

DNCall

What about babies born into Witness families? Is Lett unaware of prior teachings regarding "family merit?" It was the idea that a child was protected from condemnation by virtue of its parents' dedication to god. This protection would remain in force until the child reached an age where it could make its own dedication to god. That projected age was reduced as younger and younger children were being steered toward baptism. This of course would have to stop far short of being babies since infant baptism is condemned.

This is either "new light" or Lett is on his own with this one.

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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!

by Simon in

i know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.

it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.

plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.

DNCall

GabeAthouse:

The Southern Strategy was indeed a black mark on the reputation of the Republican Party. I would, however, like to call your attention to a greater offense committed by the Democratic Party at the time of the Civil Rights Act, namely the creation of the welfare state.

Prior to this time there was an income gap between whites and blacks, but that gap increased substantially after this time. The welfare state created continuing and increased dependence on government support among low income citizens. In the black community approximately 70% of black families had a father present before the welfare state. Since the welfare state, which incentivizes single-parent families, approximately 70% of black families are without fathers. The consequences of this have included proliferation of gangs and gang violence, lack of education and the plague of perpetual victimhood. https://www.americanexperiment.org/thomas-sowell-on-the-welfare-state/

https://www.hoover.org/research/thomas-sowell-origins-economic-disparities

In this way, political leaders of the Democratic Party exert power and control over the black community not unlike the power and control exerted by plantation owners over their slaves.

I realize this thread is about today's SCOTUS ruling and I believe the earlier comments address the issue beautifully. However I also believe that your comment warrants further response.

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Governing Body's Reply in Support of Its Motion to Dismiss in Hines v. Watchtower

by DNCall in

the governing body's reply to hines' opposition to their motion to dismiss appears to address the various elements in the opposition including case law cited by hines.

it's now up to the judge to determine which party will prevail.

the judge has up to 60 days to make such determination but it has been stipulated that the return date for the parties to return to court is tomorrow, april 13th.

DNCall

The Governing Body's Reply to Hines' Opposition to their Motion to Dismiss appears to address the various elements in the Opposition including case law cited by Hines. It's now up to the judge to determine which party will prevail. The judge has up to 60 days to make such determination but it has been stipulated that the return date for the parties to return to court is tomorrow, April 13th. The Court may continue (delay) this date. I'm not sure what form this hearing will take, whether oral argument will be allowed or not, whether the judge will have made a decision, etc. If the motion to dismiss is granted, the GB wins, pending any further action by Hines. If the motion is denied, in whole or in part, the case can proceed. This is a broad picture. The actual outcome remains to be seen.

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Hines v. Watchtower, et al, Plaintiff's Opposition to GB's Motion to Dismiss

by DNCall in

last friday, plaintiff hines' opposition to the above motion was filed.

it appears to me that the zalkin firm eviscerates the gb's motion.

in plaintiff's memorandum of law, it is clearly presented that the elements of hines' complaint are of the type protected by ny law against motions to dismiss.

DNCall

The GB's reply deadline to Hine's Opposition to their Motion to Dismiss has been delayed, as has the hearing date from 3/30 to the middle of April. This extension of time was stipulated to by the parties.