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  Covid19 "Suggestions" (aka rules)

  by Huxley1979 in

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  so a co just said in his talk yesterday that anyone that doesn't follow the branch's covid19 "suggestions" is disobedient and the type of person that won't survive armageddon.

  didn't the letter say that each head of household would choose for himself how to apply the "suggestions"?.

  the funny thing is there are other countries where none of these "suggestions" have been given..

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  Power corrupts , absolute power corrupts absolutely .

  A CO is an accepted recognized higher part of that structured power, that's why they will say things above what an ordinary lower powered elder would say.
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  There is always going to be people who are susceptible to fear mongering bullshit, particularly if you present that information with the established belief in the bible, its the word of god almighty after all.
  
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  I mean.... there is marine fossils on top of Everest.

  Yes but not just laying about on the surface but in strata layers which means these high elevations on Everest were once an ocean floor that were pushed up by the tectonic plates of the Earth's surface shifting upward creating the numerous mountain ranges which are seen today.
  

  Creationists like to twist these findings to support the ancient mythological story of Noah's flood.
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  For an organization that has been lying since the late 1800's, nothing would surprise me.
  
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  Insighful advice or mere speculation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  i'm off to the supermarket to get some bumf.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeypy6oo0sq.

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  Disgruntled old man venting , some of things he says is true but he seems to think he knows what going to happen once the restrictions are lifted.
  

  One thing one can bet in the near incoming future is that most countries will go through a economic recession burgeoned with a huge tax bill on the end.
  
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  Notable Watchtower Quotations

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.

  of the watchtower leadership.

  “‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.

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  Finkelstein

  The "Power" game the WTS played out to the public is one of coercion, provocation of fear, exploitation and mind and mental manipulation, orchestrated by use of literature publishing .

  This one individual religoius organization/publishing house has killed thousands, broken apart millions of families and destroyed and wasted millions of lives, all for the sake of select few men playing we are god's chosen, be loyal and subservient to us if you want to survive Armageddon.
  
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  Notable Watchtower Quotations

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.

  of the watchtower leadership.

  “‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.

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  The JWS religion is truly a religion made up of lies, ignorance, deception, coercion and corruption.

  How can you tell and verify that ?
  

  Just read the articles it has written in many of its pieces of literature over the years.

  You dont have to go anywhere else.
  
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  Out of The mouth Of 2 - 3 Witnesses Jehovah Never Endorsed Them in 1919 .

  by smiddy3 in

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  the 2 or 3 witness rule to substantiate a truth about a matter .joh.8:17 , 2 cor.13 : 1. jehovah`s witnesses claim they were appointed by god in 1919 ?

  as the only religion that god was going to use to dispense food at the proper time ?

  and to lead his people by.. fact 1.

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  Yes god did choose apostate false prophets charlatans in 1919 as his earthly FDSL.

  Or was that just a proclamation made by those men to support themselves and their endeavors in their publishing business, with their intent of proliferating the literature they published ?
  
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  Insighful advice or mere speculation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  i'm off to the supermarket to get some bumf.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeypy6oo0sq.

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  What a pessimistic nutter who bases his summation upon theoretical speculation.
  
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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

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  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Ex-JWS should have inherently sharpen skills in identifying bullshit, disingenuous propaganda and corruption, they were involved in a religion that was all about those things.