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  Have u found friendships w/ worldy people be hard?

  by blkblk13 in

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  so, i'm embarking on slow fade and i think it's time for me to start making friends w/ some non-jdubs so that i'll have a support network once i decide to be completely out and everyone ive ever known abandons me.

  ive always gotten along much better w/ wordly people than jdubs so i'll haveno problem securing friends but im concerned about being to keep them.. i want out of the org for various reasons but i must admit i still believe many of the teachings.

  i just think the leadership and organization itself is corrupt.

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  Bring_the_Light

  We will never accept you as a "real" apostate unless you give up ALL JayDub teachings, let yourself be ravished by Satan (and like it), and of course, drink Lambs blood daily. Very sorry, its the rules. Now make your choice or leave before you stumble somebody, hehe. :oP The Light keeps getting brighter. Bring_the_Light
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  time to move on....

  by wings in

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  just wanted to say how much you here on this board have helped me and a sincere thank you.

  i am moving... into a huge, and potentially, wonderful transition in my life.

  hard times ahead, but i think the worst is behind me.

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  Bring_the_Light

  Ok, but I won't talk to you unless you come back, make progress in the (real) Truth, attend meetings regularly and associate only with freethinking people. This is a loving provision to make sure you don't stumble me. :) Bring_the_Light
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  Hi!--It's time to jump in!!

  by Pandoras cat in

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  2. friends

  i have been lurking on this site for long time now.

  my sister-in-law told me about this forum when i had questions and concerns about bible teachings from the organization.

  i have never posted because i was scared of getting found out---that would have disastrous results.

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  Bring_the_Light

  *cough* Bring_the_Light, the name you were grasping for was Bring_the_Light and I expect it to appear on all future lists of awesome people in the future. Print this page and tape it to your monitor. Bring_the_Light
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  Music recommendations for young man born-in

  by Eyes Open in

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  2. entertainment

  i'm just about to buy a cd or two for a born-in relative of mine.

  he's expecting the cd's to be delivered to him.

  do any of you have recommendations of music which might be good for a born-in to hear?

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  Bring_the_Light

  The Smashing Pumpkins worked for me. Bring_the_Light
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  What Kind of Phone Do You Use?

  by minimus in

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  my cell is a razor from motorola.

  verizon has some new phones available.

  if you were to upgrade, what would you get?

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  Bring_the_Light

  I want an apostaphone too. I'm getting one as soon as they come with an interface as awesome and god-inspired as my iPhone.
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  How did you handle facing the reality of death?

  by song19 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those raised or who got the truth at a young age, how have you been able to handle the reality that you are in fact, eventually, going to die in this system?.

  for me, this was a real hard reality check.

  as a witness, my entire life i was convinced that i would see armageddon, that i wouldnt grow old and die.

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  Bring_the_Light

  I should have elaborated on there being no normal. Consider the possibilities:

  1. Everything is just a given, nothing to worry about <- doesn't work, we die, can't be ignored.

  2. Jehovah created us, its all about apple-eating bitch, wear bad suits, act like an asshole, god loves you, no dying <- nuts

  3. Universe is just a given, we evolved from primordial broth, no god, accident <- nuts

  4. There is a god, some other religion got him right or all got him wrong, but there is a personal god out there with a plan for us <-nuts

  5. We are god, live is a dream we are creating ourselves, whatever we are, we're the ones manifesting this experience for ourselves <- nuts

  6. We are re-incarnating through existance as every kind of living thing, our incarnations based on what we did with our lives <- nuts

  7. Something not exactly listed here, but just as nuts. <- nuts.

  I find it extraordinary to recognize and really feel how "real" reality is, and to simultaneously recognize that no matter how rational you are there is no "normal, non crazy" explanation for why we are here. You can't wake up from this adventure, Alice. It is very real, and there is no normal. I find it intoxicating to ponder, and this is why I call myself an Agnostic rather than Athiest even though there is very little about Athiesm I disagree with. A smug Athiest understands a lot, but doesn't understand that he is tumbling down the rabbit hole just like the rest of us, and it ain't rational, whatever it is. If you think you can order a "rational" explanation in your mind for this experience, you're just as deluded as a dub.

  Let me re-iterate, it is also all very real. I was obsessed with "how real" reality was when I was a teenager, even blurting out "reality is very real" trying to explain to others this recognition described above. It is my mantra. The life being a miracle isn't a metaphor.

  Change your perspective from "there is an answer and I'm in pain because I can't find it, there is something wrong" to "I realize how truly miraculous this experience is".

  Bring_the_Light
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  How did you handle facing the reality of death?

  by song19 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those raised or who got the truth at a young age, how have you been able to handle the reality that you are in fact, eventually, going to die in this system?.

  for me, this was a real hard reality check.

  as a witness, my entire life i was convinced that i would see armageddon, that i wouldnt grow old and die.

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  I've thought about death since I was very young. It is the ultimate Light. There is no normal in my mind, because I know we die. Any illusion in life of permanency or normality is evaporated under the harsh Light of knowledge that this is not a permanent state. 27 years ago I didn't exist, some 50-60 years from now I'll stop existing. You can't hand-wave that, can't ignore it, it is the very biggest of big deals. Imagine how different our lives would be if we either did not die, or didn't know we would. I can hardly imagine it.

  I'd like to share a line with you from the good book. Listen with me, if you will, to "The Aeroplane Flies High", line 20, and it says:

  "I've always been afraid to die, but I think I'm more afraid to live"

  The recognition that we are mortal and know not the "whys and wherefores" of our existance is only a tradgedy when we create a battle between reality and some notion of what "ought to be". Whatever the reason, whatever the end, it is, what it is, regardless of what you think about it. You can't fix it, you can't change it, and you can't complain because you were impossible to start with. The recognition of our mortality is very real, but in full perspective, there is no tradgedy. Suffering alive about dying doesn't make sense. Don't be afraid to live.

  The key to overcoming the dread of death is to realize that you had no control over your existing in the first place and you will have no control over your ceasing to exist and no amount of thinking, wishing or hoping will change what you are, whatever that is. You can't "break" things by failing to understand. You don't carry any responsibility for the situation (despite what some bible thumpers may tell you)

  I would prefer to have existed than not. My lack of knowledge why I exist or what happens when this ends is not a reason to feel that my existing is a tradgedy, I'd rather exist than not, I don't have any power to change the terms and conditions of that existing. The lack of knowlege gives a heavy "urgency of now" but I don't feel bad that I am not getting some kind of promise of everlasting existance. Truly, we die because it makes life important.

  Bring_the_Light
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  Abusive People On This Board...

  by cognac in

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  how do you handle them?

  i mean, sometimes they write things that are really hurtful!.

  do you just ignore them altogether?

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  Bring_the_Light

  Fxxx you ALL! :o) wee!
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  I Really, Really Want a Baby...

  by cognac in

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  2. friends

  i have since as far back as i can remember.

  i don't really think the jw thing will be an issue anymore.... ok, so what do you think?.

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  Bring_the_Light

  I have since as far back as I can remember. I don't really think the JW thing will be an issue anymore...

  Ok, so what do you think?

  I was about to offer my services, now I see that I have been beaten to the punch. Considering the circumstances, I propose an extremely friendly competition. We line up for a rapid fire gang-bang, the man with the fastest swimming boys, wins. Whatchasayguys? or don't you believe your soldiers can swim? hehe *dibs on first bang* who wants sloppy seconds?
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  JWDers Congratulate Raindog !!!

  by yknot in

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  raindog is in school right now and has been an excellent student....unfortunately his dad is an elder who is currently 'borgwashed'.. (story) http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/160240/1.ashx.

  he was made the dean's list (again) and has been invited to join the honor society !.

  so let's encourge this young man to keep moving forward in the face of this co outline!......

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  Bring_the_Light

  Isn't it sad that we feel compelled to congratulate someone for being normal?

  Nice job being normal, dude. Now be extraordinary and destroy the borg for us and I'll increase the amount of flattery.