Posts by hawkaw

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5th estate doing update story on the vicki boer case
by needs_lots in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
merry x-mas!

i just got a call from the 5th estate, and they are running an update story very soon.

they will be coming back to my house and interviewing me with the updates on my trial.
hawkaw

I have been keeping this somewhat quiet over the holidays. I am glad they have contacted Vicki. Heads up Mike Moss.
An update of many issues has been brought to the attention of CBC per their request. CBC is apparently in the process of reviewing the entire situation with the JWs/child abuse issue and is still determining what stories they will or will not air in their update. It is likely that Vicki's story and other Canadian stories will be aired.
What I am not sure about is what American information will be provided as that is where things are really happening in the Court system. I really think it is vitial that cases such as the Anderson case of Tennessee be put on as well as the cases that are going on in California, Las Vegas and Oregon.
A number of us will be told when this story will air on CBC.
I would like to personally thank all of the survivors and advocates along with the crew at the Fifth Estate for making this story and keeping it in the press.
hawk
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Feb 15 Watchtower: Apostates - Guard Against Deception
by truthseeker in
1. jw
2. friends
feb 15 watchtower: apostates - guard against deception

don't you wish this were the real title of the 2nd study article?

well, it is, minus the word apostate.
hawkaw

Its time for someone to scan this garbage study article with the cover page.
I could really have fun sharing this with the "hood".
hawk
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Feb 15 Watchtower: Apostates - Guard Against Deception
by truthseeker in
1. jw
2. friends
feb 15 watchtower: apostates - guard against deception

don't you wish this were the real title of the 2nd study article?

well, it is, minus the word apostate.
hawkaw

Wow. This ranks up there with these idiots going after the Judges who don't rule in the WTS's favour. I think that was the March 1, 2002 or 2003 WTS if memory serves. Of course Our Kingdom Ministry of August 2002 (p. 3 and 4) on how to treat family members who have been df'ed or da'ed is just as disgusting.
Yep those evil Apostates like Vicki Boer, Barb Anderson, Joe Anderson, Bill Bowen, Mike Moss who are only trying to protect little kids lives from child molesters etc ....
And why just look who acted like Babylon the Great when the Watchtower decided to voluntarily partner with the UN's Department of Public Information as an "associated non governmental organization" and who voluntarily agreed to support the UN's charter (which allows for war such as Korean conflict that killed about 2 million) and disiminate the UN's literature from about Februrary 2002 to October 2001.
What I read here is creed bigotry at its worst. Just like the Aryian Nation using the bible to justify going after African Americans/Canadians and Jewish Americans/Canadian just because they have a different skin colour or creed.
I wonder how JWs feel to be compared to a group like the Aryian Nation?
hawk
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"the U.N." - it's effects on the witnesses
by gumby in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
in short......i am surprised of the organisations involvement with the u.n......had the damaging effect to the degree that it did......upon those who learned of it.. when the 'generation change' occured in 94', i thought there would be a bigger fallout.

when the voting issue happened, i thought it would cause quite a stir.

with "dateline" and "fifth estate" uncovering child molestation issue among jehovah's witnesses....i thought many would fall out.. what gets me is the amount , that were effected by the u.n. scandle.
hawkaw

Ahhh ..... Snicker
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Silentlambs: Letter from an Elder
by Nosferatu in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
dear bill

recently, we had our two-day circuit assembly.

some points for you to note.
hawkaw

I know of this person who had to sit through this particular talk.
Very accurate and thanks for sharing.
I hope it hits home with a few lurkers that the leadership of this group are more concerned with a "clean image" and would prefer to tell their flock that they are all being persecuted by worldly folks rather than helping survivors and being accountable for their actions.
hawk
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Two new press articles on Father's Touch
by morrisamb in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
december 10, 2003

with head pic

exciting times for donald d?haene
hawkaw

Well done Donald ... as usual.
hawk
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Happy Holidays to All of You From Lee
by Lady Lee in
1. jw
2. friends
hawkaw

Happy Holidays Lady Lee
and every one else as well.
hawk
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New Lawsuit filed in California vs. the WTBTS
by Gerard in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
i believe this lawsuit was filed in november 2003, placer county, california.

http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/newsletteritem.cfm?sendoutid=159

plaintiffs vs.
hawkaw

PING! for contact information
As this is important
hawk
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Gordon Watson (Elder) stands trial Nov. 5 and 7 for Sexual Assault
by Gerard in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
news: http://www.brandonsun.com/index.php?id=3238

previously discussed in : http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/59617/1.ashx

court reporter dean pritchard is now covering this case (brandon sun newspaper).
hawkaw

Question .... is this guy still an elder or has he stepped down while this trial has been going on?
hawk
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Has anyone read Awake Nov 8th 'When loved ones do not share your faith',
by barry in
1. jw
2. friends
this artical seems ok to me no mention of shunning, marking etc.

could it be the wt is feeling the heat and changing its policy in respect to shunning of family and friends?

is the awake just as authoritive as the wt and is this artical grounds for a change?
hawkaw

The August, 2002 edition of "Our Kingdom Ministry" spells out all of the nasty requirements for labeling (calling them apostates) and shunning family members who become disassociated or disfellowshipped.
This is classic creed bigotry in one of it worst forms and it still continues unabated.
hawk