consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your orginizations information programme as it relates to the united nations, including sending us issues of of relevant publications..
quote from the uns dpi ngo letter.. i can just imagine a brother standing on the front door of the un saying "and you can see this scarlet coloured wild beast?
thats you, and over the page, you again geting showered by fireballs.
To answer your question. No the "partnership" should not have provided financial aid.
Click below ... This may help. The only thing I do not have linked is the March 2004 letter by the UN ...
http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/un.htm
If I get a chance today I will get you to the link relating to the 1991 WT rag and the Muller quote.
Remember the WTS never "joined" the UN. The proper words are "associated" or "partnered".
Later
hawk
in an informal announcement at service meetings this week (corroborated by the question box in the january 2005 our kingdom ministry, pg 7) jws interested in contributing to the asian tsunami disaster should contribute directly to the "worldwide work" (the general fund).. the entire article referenced above: .
what is the best way to make contributions for the benefit of needy brothers in other lands?.
at times, we hear about brothers in another land who have come into material need because of persecution, disaster, or other difficult circumstances.
hmm ....
.... I can't believe this is actually in the January 2005 Our Kingdom Ministry. There sure are a bunch of "optic" challenged people in Bethel.
Interesting things about long term disasters. First off the press does the story on the disaster .... but after a few days it needs more stories so they start looking for making a story. Such as the beltway press went on a tear over Bush's so-called lack of a speech. Our press in Canada went after our government too for its supposed lack of money being given.
I wonder if the press would be interested in this angle.
If someone would kindly scan this document I will send it to Laurie at the NY Times and James at CP.
hawk
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2004/12/15/news/community/wed02.txt .
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2004/12/15/news/community/wed02.txt .
jobs.
Thanks for kind words skally. And I hope you have a great holiday season too.
As for this case ... please recall your American SCOTUS decision from a few months back and how the Court ruled 8 to 1 that JWs could knock on doors without a permit.
Recall it was the learned and very conservative Chief Justice that disagreed with the majority. He indicated that Permit systems were a good idea to ensure dangerous people like Walters get identified and are prevented from knocking on a person's door.
God help the JWs if there ever is a case that is pubilcally exposed where one of their known criminals attacks a member of the public in an inhouse bible study and door knocking Saturday. The publicity and civil case would kill them.
hawk
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2004/12/15/news/community/wed02.txt .
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2004/12/15/news/community/wed02.txt .
jobs.
Afternoon BTTT
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2004/12/15/news/community/wed02.txt .
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2004/12/15/news/community/wed02.txt .
jobs.
BTTT
my mother doesn't speak to me although she will exchange emails with me.
we actually don't communicate much, but recently i sent her a few emails detailing things are wrong with the watchtower society.
her responses are laughable... but i am still printing out articles and mailing them to her about the un scandle, she of course doesn't believe it.. but has anyone sucessfully made any headway talking to a dyed in the wool jw and made any progress?
I was a dyed in the wool Jw. I successfully saw the light. But it does take time. My husband tried for 10 years before I realized it all.
Your husband was a very patient person who recognized how he could approach you without losing you and thank god for that.
Of course I'm not too sure about his driving habits ...... maybe you can work on those .
Take care and have a create holdiay wannaexit.
hawk
feel free to listen to the oral arguments in front of the court by the watchtower counsel and the berry ladies counsel at below link.
remember this is a civil action brought by the berry ladies against the watchtower et.al for failing to report the abuse.
the berrys lost summary motion and have appealed.
Always keep in mind that in this case and the criminal case, the JWs hold Mr. Paul Berry in high regard and consider him a JW in good standing.
This is the case even though this very unique individual was found guilty well beyond a reasonable doubt and is serving a 56-112 year prison sentence.
Hey Paul you might be a good little JW but right now it must really suck to be you ...
hawk
i have seen quite a few posts from many ex-jw women about how unhappy they were about male domination in congregation.
was it really that bad?
when i was still a jw, no one ever told me anything to that effect.
Just about every JW Elder? I've ever known pronounces "nuclear" as NEW CUE LAR.Need I say more?
No ... you have said enough .. Does that include our dear friend Larry ... you do remember Larry don't you ... who has this unique habit of getting on the stand in child abuse cases and lying his friggin face off ... such as in Regina v. C.T.C. down in Brockville I am curious how JW elders pronounce the word nuclear and Florida up in the Ottawa Valley eh! ....
feel free to listen to the oral arguments in front of the court by the watchtower counsel and the berry ladies counsel at below link.
remember this is a civil action brought by the berry ladies against the watchtower et.al for failing to report the abuse.
the berrys lost summary motion and have appealed.
You are welcome.
This truly will be an interesting decision.
Will a privilege that is part of a court rule trump a statute reporting law.
Will this somewhat new common law duty to report stand up for issues that are fairly easy to report.
And of course Will the Court buy into the statute of limitation argument that the ladies were unaware that their mother went to the WTS for advice and it wasn't until many years later did they find out via the mother, that the elders were told of the problems.
As for the mother failing to report. Well yeah, that is true and if I know the JW leaders, she was threatened with disfellowshipping and loss of God if she spoke out - and that is very very serious to a JW. I would say Mr. Berry is also responible too. But if we agree with the argument at hand then the elders also failed to report and they are, according to civil law created by Judge Groff, partially responsible and if found to be negligent by a jury the WTS must be held accountable for their actions. It would be up to the court/jury to decide what degree of responsiblity lies with each defendant and award damages accordingly.
feel free to listen to the oral arguments in front of the court by the watchtower counsel and the berry ladies counsel at below link.
remember this is a civil action brought by the berry ladies against the watchtower et.al for failing to report the abuse.
the berrys lost summary motion and have appealed.
Boy the WTS lawyer is a real piece of work.
Interesting arguments
