I actually know the family on the cover.
Patrick was quite the partier in his younger days....
or photoshop?
did the wts actually print this shit?.
i think i will puke!.
I actually know the family on the cover.
Patrick was quite the partier in his younger days....
sorry i have been very busy and forgot.
as promised.
friday afternoon.
Awesome!
A sequel to Preparation.
They should have titled it "Preparation H'
'cause their sticking it in the same place!
drew sagan in a recent post (he recently graduated college) said this, something that i agree with and frankly, think about often.
to those of you who feel that you need to "help others" in the watchtower i give you this word of caution.
be careful, because that may simply be an excuse you are using to remain stuck in the past.
Jeff,
Sorry about your mom. I have not posted in a while for the reasons you point out. I came to the conclusion that being on this site was not allowing me to move on. I am only posting this in an effort to help. This site helped me to an incredible degree but In my case it began to interfere with my escape. I have never been happier than I am now. Taking some time away might be worth considering. I check in occasionally just to see what flavor Kool Aid me wife is drinking this week.
All the best,
Tread
i was recently doing some personal reading when i came across this qote from an unnamed jewish rabbi, "there are times when we have questions we cannot answer, and the ultimate test of our faith is to believe that there is an answer, even though we could never fathom what it might be".. i have been very content the last few years just recovering from the cult and have not been looking for something to replace it.
the biggest reason i left was the fact that the jw's got so many initial beliefs incorrect, including the three "generation changes inthe last 20 years".
not knowing an answe to an question that could only be answered with speculation was not an issue for me.. this quote, whether you put stock in it or not, initiated me revisiting what beliefs i may or may not have.
"My Father, who has been a baptized JW for over 20 years now, can't answer my questions either. As a matter of fact, he has his OWN questions that haven't been answered."
I won't speak for your father but the point I was making was that most JW's think thay have an answer for everything, even of the reality is it is circular reasoning.
The mere thought of searching for the unaswerable, or more accurately the unprovable, is what is liberating about leaving this religion.
The term faith seems hollow for a group that truly beleives they have all the answers.
has wt ever published a number of how many they expect to die at armageddon?.
will it bring the population down to the georgia guidestones advice for a manageable level?.
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If it happened today, take the world population and subtract the adjusted jw numbers. That's how many.
Then subtract 60% of those who really don't believe or are living a double life.
i was recently doing some personal reading when i came across this qote from an unnamed jewish rabbi, "there are times when we have questions we cannot answer, and the ultimate test of our faith is to believe that there is an answer, even though we could never fathom what it might be".. i have been very content the last few years just recovering from the cult and have not been looking for something to replace it.
the biggest reason i left was the fact that the jw's got so many initial beliefs incorrect, including the three "generation changes inthe last 20 years".
not knowing an answe to an question that could only be answered with speculation was not an issue for me.. this quote, whether you put stock in it or not, initiated me revisiting what beliefs i may or may not have.
I was recently doing some personal reading when I came across this qote from an unnamed Jewish Rabbi, "There are times when we have questions we cannot answer, and the ultimate test of our faith is to believe that there IS an answer, even though we could never fathom what it might be".
I have been very content the last few years just recovering from the cult and have not been looking for something to replace it. The biggest reason I left was the fact that the JW's got so many initial beliefs incorrect, including the three "generation changes inthe last 20 years". Not knowing an answe to an question that could only be answered with speculation was not an issue for me.
This quote, whether you put stock in it or not, initiated me revisiting what beliefs I may or may not have. What I could not dispute was this Rabbi's definition of faith. I then reconfirmed what I do not miss, Jehovahs Witnesses have an answer for everything. Jehovah's Witnesses really don't need faith. They just need to accept the beliefs spelled out for them in the Watchtower.
When you consider their beliefs, ask yourself what questions can't they answer (I am not implying that any of their answers are logical).
They will tell you they don't know the day or the hour, However according to their interpretaion a day is equal to a thousand years with Jehovah, yet the "end is coming within (you fill in the blank here for whatever the generation may mean by the time you read this).
I guess this rant is just leading me to conclusionis that these people don't need faith because they claim to have all the answers.
I really don' t miss being a part of this religion,
Tread
it is the congregation's co visit this week.
it is first one since i stepped down and i have not attended any of the programme.
i just received a phone call from a sister, i answered thinking it was someone else.
The CO is at my wifes Hall this week also.
An elder invited me to a meeting. I said no thanks.
I asked if he learned anything new, he said he would share his notes
My response "no thanks".
I must say it was a far better feeling than "faking" it.
i'm already being stalked by the elders, thanks to my wife.
they had a "shepherding call" for three hours while waiting for me to come back to my house.
if they're that determined, i'm somewhat concerned about their reaction to what i'm going to do.
Listen to shopaholic.....
the talk outlines for the summers conventions are only being printed over the next 2 weeks or so.. the finished outlines were ready in the middle of december 2009, however sources that i trust tell me that at least 5 of the talks were returned for last minute rewriting which is highly unusual.
this has held up the printing until now, a delay of over a month.
this is a fact!!.
It sounds loke it will be a "come to Jesus" meeting.
Just bypassing Jesus.
leave it to gloria allred to grab the limelight.
she and her client, the ex-porn star, want tiger to apologize to her.
do you think he should?
The first rule of cheating is to cheat with someone who has equally as much to lose as you. ie. married guy=married woman.
When you break the rule this is what could happen. Now he is dealing with some psycho ex lovers who have no reason to keep their mouths shut.
And to answer the question; no he does not need to apologize unless he told them he was not married.