been there done that even had rick perry show up . I'm bailing on the movement because the republicans have hijacked it and at this point I blame them for all our problems both domestic and foreign.
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Anyone going to the TEA PARTY Tommorow?
by Cagefighter ini will be there with the lonestar tea partiers!.
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Holy spirit reveals stuff through GB--July 15, 2010 WT
by sd-7 injuly 15, 2010 wt page 22, 23:.
would all anointed christians shine?.
in a sense, yes, for all christians would participate.
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Yah looks like the holy spirit will reveal they are wrong yet again . I think they are insane to say they are "anointed" but yet not inspired . They even go as far as spirit directed at times , which is the same thing . They seem to get themselves caught up in samantics . The belief that the bible even exists for our day is because the spirit resisted attacks against in . I just recently bailed on them again myself because of people trying to force opinion on me and at times, I believe blaspheme .
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Russia: JWs treated as "terrorists"
by behemot inrussia: jehovah's witnesses treated as "terrorists" .
investigations and searches from house to house, seizing religious material "extremist" allegations.
a kingdom hall in budennovsk set on fire.
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That's some excellent comments there sd-7 . The governing body needs to step up to the plate . The WTBTS is basically a peaceful organization and I often wonder why they never even get nominated for the nobel peace prize. Why would they be afraid of anything ? The way I see it you aren't in the remnant unless you do some jail time over it and die at the hands of opposers anyway and they do believe at this time it's more or less an instantanious resurrection anyway. Yah the governments are extremely corrupt but to hide in the shadows whilst those you call brothers are in the trenches is cowardly to say the least.
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Russia: JWs treated as "terrorists"
by behemot inrussia: jehovah's witnesses treated as "terrorists" .
investigations and searches from house to house, seizing religious material "extremist" allegations.
a kingdom hall in budennovsk set on fire.
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All I can say is more power to the dissenters in Russia . I personally don't like jw's but still feel their stance of government corruption has a solid backing from all over . If more people would get on the band wagon of exposing and condemning government corruption in the US then we might actually get something done around here .
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Prove bible teaches Resurrection right after the 'initial' armageddon.
by EndofMysteries inrev 20;4-10 - says those who were true witnesses, did not get mark of beast on hand or forhead, did not worship it's image, came to life and ruled as kings and priest for 1,000 years, the rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were ended.
happy and holy are those of the first resurrection, they will be kings and priests of god and of the christ and rule 1,000 years.
then as soon as thousand years ended, satan misleads those on earth, and when they surround the camp, fire destroys them.
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aguest- nobody can say for sure what the new heavens and earth will be like but we do know the earth was a bit different before man arrived and possibly will return to that same design , if worked the first time then why not? The earth had it's orbit changed due to the flood of noahs day which allowed for seasons, according to some .TRue you won't find that in a science book . I would like to again include daniel 12 where Michael stands up and the dead are resurrected . I do believe in 2 resurrections .
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Prove bible teaches Resurrection right after the 'initial' armageddon.
by EndofMysteries inrev 20;4-10 - says those who were true witnesses, did not get mark of beast on hand or forhead, did not worship it's image, came to life and ruled as kings and priest for 1,000 years, the rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were ended.
happy and holy are those of the first resurrection, they will be kings and priests of god and of the christ and rule 1,000 years.
then as soon as thousand years ended, satan misleads those on earth, and when they surround the camp, fire destroys them.
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The WTBTS states that the dead are resurrected but don't come to life in respect to over coming their immoral ways and living in harmony with Gods perfect will . Kinda sounds silly to me but jesus is only in charge for the millenial reign , he is the appointed king and in charge of the resurrection ,it's his choice who gets life and gets everlasting abhorrences . Personally I think the earth is in really bad shape at the beginning of millenial reign and would need time to be restored to paradise as was before adam and eve . The continents would have to be connected and the earth back on the same course around the sun to do it . That's if the sun doesn't explode .
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Are some of the anointed ones now already ressurrected and gone to heaven as the society claim?
by Truthexplorer infrankly, i am a little bit confused by this teaching.
well when i read 1 thes 4:13-18, it contradicts what the society claim.. paul wrote -.
moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
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cattailis - Are you still in ? just going to ignore the frivilous poster who's name spells satan backwards . That's a thing I've thought about myself. Apparently jesus started ruling among his enemies and took the throne of david in heaven . I'm looking at revs 20:4 where the saints actually get their reward . It is after the devil is abyssed.
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Are some of the anointed ones now already ressurrected and gone to heaven as the society claim?
by Truthexplorer infrankly, i am a little bit confused by this teaching.
well when i read 1 thes 4:13-18, it contradicts what the society claim.. paul wrote -.
moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
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Natas - Is that the only point you care to make because if it is we get the idea and you can move along in your sophisticated life that's so out of our league we are beneath your very intellect. If you want to promote atheism then start your own thread where all your followers can basque in the glow of your genious . (gag)
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Are some of the anointed ones now already ressurrected and gone to heaven as the society claim?
by Truthexplorer infrankly, i am a little bit confused by this teaching.
well when i read 1 thes 4:13-18, it contradicts what the society claim.. paul wrote -.
moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
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Let's everybody just ignore Natas , he just likes to crap on threads more than discuss anything .
The WTBTS resurrection dogma is all hinged on the gentile times concluding in 1914. The apostle Paul always sounded so conflicted over issues and deserves scrutiny when being quoted . I don't know if people tampered with the writings or he was mentally ill at times from reading it. I know the WTBTS has pulled a 180 from time to time based on Pauls meanderings. For example - superior authorities dogma. The bible is clearly the most symbolic book on the planet and there are many things that are literal and symbolic . I think what Paul was talking about was a future resurection when christ returned as king but aparently jehovah can see people as being alive in the present while actually meaning the future . In Daniel 11-12 we are looking at the future, obviously during the tribulation that is caused by warring nations . Michael stands up and the dead are resurrected and judged .
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Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs
by Mad Sweeney inthe watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
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Nobody mentioned that Dueteronomy scripture about identifying a false prophet.
I'd like to see that one from the WTBTS .That's about as twisted a thing I've ever heard . They do to say they are jehovahs spokes man .