i think the the baptism of fire, blood and spirit , is symbolic , fire could mean refined or perhaps given the ability to proclain adverse judgement against GODs eneimies , blood probably means jesus blood and spirit is obviously holy spirit .
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Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!
by The Searcher inthe following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.
to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.
" (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).
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Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!
by The Searcher inthe following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.
to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.
" (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).
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if gentiles didn't need baptism then what about the ethiopian eunich , immediately upon understanding he gets baptized , acts 8;27 -38. My belief tho is that women are not required in baptism since the men would obviously be naked and the whole point was for them to be able to preach the good news before GOD and angels , showing that their conscience was a clean slate in reguard to spiritual and moral beliefs . 1 peter 3:21 IMO
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Does JESUS Have Wings?
by Cold Steel inthe jehovah's witnesses believe jesus is an angel.
they also apparently believe that angels have wings.
jesus was a spirit being before he was born, we're told, and he was resurrected as a spirit (even though jesus insisted he wasn't a spirit), then does he still have his [ring bell] wings?
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NO NO , you don't get the wing thing ,, angels are already lighter than air and need wings to direct themselves .
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Dreaming about JW's
by d inlately i have been dreaming a lot about old jw's i used to know and be friends with.
i have been out since 2008 but yet i think often of those i liked a lot at the kingdom hall.
i do not get it why do these still thoughts still come?
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I don't call those dreams , night mares more precisely , wake up in cold sweat screaming , You lied ......
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Does JESUS Have Wings?
by Cold Steel inthe jehovah's witnesses believe jesus is an angel.
they also apparently believe that angels have wings.
jesus was a spirit being before he was born, we're told, and he was resurrected as a spirit (even though jesus insisted he wasn't a spirit), then does he still have his [ring bell] wings?
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I guess he can always go to wing stop and get some if not>LOL
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QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE ASKED AFTER ARMAGEDDON
by sieborg inwhere can i plug in my i-pod to read my downloaded publications ?
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can we start stoning people agin ?
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New F&DS Light question
by ItsMyLife ini have a question about the implications of the new light regarding the f&ds.
sorry if it sounds complicated, i'm not good at explaining things.. .
if the f&ds is now just the few brothers who get together to dispense the food at the proper time, and the f&ds will be appointed over all of christ's belongings, then does that mean they will be appointed above the rest of the 144,000 when they go to heaven?
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mostly just to ear mark this one , The appointment came after rutherford proved faithful in prison because of charges of sedition encouraging people to shoot over the enemies head if drafted in WW1 . Their whole dogma is based on 1919 CE, I don't see them changing it . I did think the ajustment this time was damage control because if you read some of those article in recent times they do seem very lack luster and would seem this is about damage control again , I do remember studying with one of these , "elect'", ones a couple years ago and I did say to him he was was not the FD&S, if they are anointed is one thing since the outline in PAULS order was a system of overseers and ministerial servants it clearly says to me that they weren't all capable of leadership , they also had their gatherings in jerusalem to discuss church doctrine , which was not attenended by all . IMO , I see that there was a level playing field and those that could prophesy accurately became the pillar in the church and others that did so falsely were removed from the church or position of authority.
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Just joined
by Gojira_101 inthis is my first time posting on here.
i've been inactive for 3 months now and my husband and i are going the fading way.
i was born and raised in this religion and now after almost 30 years, they have taken most everything from me.
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no more bowing to brooklyn heights , works for me . let the reader use discernment .....
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-06-2013 WT Review (HUMILITY)
by blondie injesus set the pattern of humility.
on earth, jehovah god exalted his.
pattern of humility?
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JWgonebad -- they realize how important he is whenever the rest of the cong show up to the memorial and after repeated instruction telling them they aren't worthy of the sacrifice , remind them they should obey the org.
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Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!
by The Searcher inthe following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.
to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.
" (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).
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Now that's a fallacy in it's own right , It should say at the end there do you swear to never question WTBTS interpretations and obey the publishing corporation dictates ?? Forget about as revealed through christ jesus part , you being the great crowd are not considered worthy of having a personal relationship with JC. Some interesting points being made about pre baptism spirit adoption but it really doesn't mean salvation without the water baptism and the public preaching and living the life in accord with GODS will and having a strong moral character .. The article the WTBTS put out was not entirely honest as usual. Wish I kept that issue , maybe someone with the bound version has it . About 4 years old