probably the stupidest thing I heard was the then president of the tower giving a sermon at a convention of which he professed to be of the LF but still intended to walk out of the world and into the kingdom , which is the earthling class hope not the LF hope , anyway I understand he died quite a while back .
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Did You Ever Hear An Elder or Bethelite's Comments That Made You Question ??
by minimus inyears ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.
a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.
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Seven Headed Wild Beast officially no longer represents UN?
by donuthole inaccording to a new "bible questions answered": " the wild beast with seven heads introduced at revelation 13:1 represents the worldwide political system.".
i know that they have quietly been backing away from the un identification for awhile.
is this feature on jw.org a new official teaching, or just a spin for the sake of the public?.
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I agree with DOC , they are still trying to cover up their UN NGO affiliation and are not condemning the UN as they did as being the disgusting thing causing desolation , a false hope of peace , I wonder if they still use the library and UN ships for relief in disaster regions . I thought they toned it down just prior to being found out . Granted the eighth king is probably the crown in britain anyway , the common view of what's going on is that the brits run the banking and money system whilst the US is the military backing of what the bankers want to do and the vatican is there for a spiritual center of which there are a billion catholics in the world so they get big support from that . In reality tho the RCC is involved in drug money laudering with the royals and the US politicians . I actually thought they were on to something there but so far the RCC or whore of babylon and it's affiliates are still allowed members of the UN and there has been no attempt to destroy it on the grounds of organized crime or anything else ...
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-12-2014 WT Study (WAIT PATIENTLY)
by blondie incomments.
100 years later still final?.
(2) what events will signal the end of our waiting period?
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It's kinda amazing how the 1986 year of peace from the UN was still not the peace and security they are waiting for , they had all major false religions pagan and christian praying for peace , the WTBTS was the only one not involved that I know of . At the time tho they once again made it sound like soooo close ......... I don't know how many times you can play the, soooooo close, card and still have people fall for it . These articles are nothing but opinion since they will insist they are not prophets , so why would anyone listen to them ? They just pretend to speak the truth when it's apparently just an opinion .They panick when people grow tired of the same attempts to control and manipulate , you don't want to leave now ,, you know we're right but we don't have a money or life back guarantee . this especially after the new generation dogma , clearly an example they are not a prophet and if are , they are a false prophet as they dangled that carrot for a hundred years ..
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Yet another problem with GB = FDS
by leaving_quietly ini was pondering this teaching yesterday.
the claim is that jesus and jehovah came and inspected all the religions and in 1919, chose rutherford as the fds.
today, the claim is that the governing body is the fds.
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From what I've been seeing around here mainly , is that they are now saying the tribulation did not start with WW1 and there was no selection of FDS since that happens during the tribulation . Don't know if that's official from the WTBTS. It would seem odd that God would want successors , kinda like the RCC and the pope . If the annointing started in 1919 ce then it would make sense it's not about an individual because rutherford is dead and there is also the evil slave of which I think they are guilty of which makes sense someone else would take charge over all of Gods belongings . They had the tribulation dogma all over the place as well , it starts and stops and starts again
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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?
by DS211 inso is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.
in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?
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revs 7 , sounds like the crowd is on earth , in contrast to the 144k who are resurrected and enter the city of new jerusalem in heaven via the pearl gates , revs 6 mentions the little flock in heaven waiting for the last of their fellow slaves to be executed ,6:11. The whole lords meal is a death pact , those professing undying love for christ and GOD recieve holy spirit and are to be the pillars of the church on earth with prophesying . The final test for them is death by the worlds political powers . Women are not part of the 144k which is another problem I have with WTBTS dogma . Another topic all together
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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?
by DS211 inso is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.
in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?
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sorry but that's gotta be wrong as jesus was telling the jews of his time the meek would inherit the earth whilst telling the apostles he would prepar a place for them in heaven, people that never had a chance to understand the truth will get a chance during the millenial reign , I believe a literal 144k is admitted as saints , revelation is clear that at the death of the very last one starts the wrath of GOD on earth.
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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?
by DS211 inso is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.
in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?
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Tho the WTBTS has the 2 folds of sheep teaching wrong there are 2 destinies for believers , The saints have to be martyred to enter the kingdom in heaven , the great crowd survive the end of the world and inherit the earth along with the resurrected faithful many for eternity many die after satan is let loose the second time and the second death ends it for them forever , 2 folds of sheep are the jew and gentile being allowed to worship as equals , the way I see it
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Circuit Oversneer Says. . .
by piztjw in"do you realize how much of a privelge it is to enjoy the visit of the circuit overseer?
they are appointed by the governing body who in turn are apointed by jesus and holy spirit.
so you have a great privilege when we visit your congregation, because it is the same thing as having jesus visit you.
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I'd like to see the part in the bible where the apostles said that about themselves, I guess we can always have the create loves and fish on the spot competition or find a lake for them to see how far across they walk , my favorite would be water to wine tho ....
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"Peace and Security"!!!! JW.ORGs best and last chance for fulfilment.
by scotoma inin the old revelation book there was a section on the cry "peace and security.. "14 in recent years, politicians have used the phrase peace and security to describe various.
human schemes.
or was paul referring only to a specific event of such dramatic proportions.
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I don't think it is instantly, as in the minute they say it , it say's ," in the days they say peace and security," plural , probably meaning the last days . We've discussed that before on this board . As far as the rest with O not liking clintons , possible , I wouldn't be surprised if O doesn't back clinton in 2018 should we make it there .
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"Peace and Security"!!!! JW.ORGs best and last chance for fulfilment.
by scotoma inin the old revelation book there was a section on the cry "peace and security.. "14 in recent years, politicians have used the phrase peace and security to describe various.
human schemes.
or was paul referring only to a specific event of such dramatic proportions.
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that's what I think there fw , the UN has already taken the role as a peace keeper with a security counsel . GOD's kingdom is the only thing that can deliver the peace and security we really want since he has a license to kill whoever he wants . The way I see it now is that the UN is the disgusting thing causing desolation and if they send the peace keeping force to Israel will most likely cause serious events , the romans claimed to bring peace but all they did was destroy jerusalem and enslave everyone that didn't die during the siege , I hear alot of fundies wanting to be in Israel believing that's where christ returns when they tear down the dome on the rock and build a temple , not me , I think he returns after whatever disaster happens there . After the scarlet beast destroys the whore of babylon, (RCC) and affiliates ,we are then faced with the 666 beast and forcing of a mark on all