that's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
And another thing OOTB:
You referance The Matrix quite often. That is a rated 'R' movie you know, and you're an Elder. I'm dissapointed in you. What kind of example is that to set for the flock :-)
ps...I love that movie! wonderful comparisons to the WT
that's right guys.
as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.
which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.
OOTB: Are you still an Elder?
"membership since .
hello guys!
today i noticed that i've been in jwd for a whole year.
Red Pill -
I feel the same way! I am a MS...and I was terrified to register here, let alone post. I am thankful that I have this forum to vent my thoughts.
Everyday is still painful in a way...this was "the truth" Sometimes I feel like a little kid who was just told Santa is not real.
Anyway, I echo your 'thank-you' - what is comforting is to know there are so many of us with the same feelings.
I look around the hall every meeting, and wonder how many people are saying a silent "bull$hit"
"don't lose the love you had at first.
" my mum sent me the dvd hoping it will "save" us.
i love how there is always a super spiritual group and a villans group of brothers who end up ruining their lives.
Well said Jeremy...
I remember sitting there watching that drama. My wife leaned over to me and asked innocently..."I never heard of Skolios. Is this from the bilble?" - all I said was a succinct "nope!"
It was an extremely weird drama...you can tell they are doing major damage control.
did a little time travel...i googled 'wt annual meeting' and this popped up from the freeminds site from 2001.... right after the 9/11 attacks the gb was probably salavating at all the scare tactics they could use for the big a!.
in 2001 i was a semi-enthusiastic ms, awaiting my impending eldership (now i am just a 'do as little as possible' ms waiting to step down.).
reading these notes now...i wonder what i would have thought of this back in 01 ??.
It's funny how after reading the 2008 anal (oops I mean annual) meeting, that nothing changes...similar empty words that no body will even remember 8 years from now...in 2016!!!
Thanks to fadingaway for posting that thread...always interesting to read this stuff.
did a little time travel...i googled 'wt annual meeting' and this popped up from the freeminds site from 2001.... right after the 9/11 attacks the gb was probably salavating at all the scare tactics they could use for the big a!.
in 2001 i was a semi-enthusiastic ms, awaiting my impending eldership (now i am just a 'do as little as possible' ms waiting to step down.).
reading these notes now...i wonder what i would have thought of this back in 01 ??.
how big of a loser am I, if I bump my own post up?
bttt:-)
L
did a little time travel...i googled 'wt annual meeting' and this popped up from the freeminds site from 2001.... right after the 9/11 attacks the gb was probably salavating at all the scare tactics they could use for the big a!.
in 2001 i was a semi-enthusiastic ms, awaiting my impending eldership (now i am just a 'do as little as possible' ms waiting to step down.).
reading these notes now...i wonder what i would have thought of this back in 01 ??.
Did a little time travel...I googled 'wt annual meeting' and this popped up from the freeminds site from 2001...
right after the 9/11 attacks The GB was probably salavating at all the scare tactics they could use for the big A!
In 2001 I was a semi-enthusiastic MS, awaiting my impending Eldership (now I am just a 'do as little as possible' MS waiting to step down.)
Reading these notes now...I wonder what I would have thought of this back in 01 ??
Here it is (copied from freeminds):
Wonder if we'll get some detailed notes from the 08 meeting soon...hmmm
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October 2001
Pontiac Silverdome (Detroit). Because of security, doing a search of
everyone invited, publishers invited are asked to bring ONLY a Bible,
songbook and a notepad.
================================
Interesting points from a talk given in Greensboro, NC by Brookyln, NY
speaker this past weekend:
1. Islam is now larger than Christendom. According to the 'Mankind Search
for God' book, the inside map shows the amount of people in major religions.
The numbers for the Islamic religion is now much larger. So all this time
that we were looking at Christendom to be this large factor, it could very
well be the Islamic groups instead. They are so large, and with all that has
happened in the past three weeks, the religion has aggravated the King of
the South and the Wild Beast. They will be looking for a way to rid
themselves of a
large group.
2. We were urged to read Ezekiel 38 and 39.
3. The end is rushing up to meet us. The signs are all there. After a
disaster, people have all these feelings. When it reaches anger, that is
when to watch around us. This is when action is likely to be taken.
4. No neutrality or pacifism will be allowed by governments. They will
insist we take a side, and when we don't, they can use this as an excuse to
take action against us. We could be termed a 'dangerous sect.' We can look
for all property owned by the Watchtower Society to be seized. Branches,
land, farms, Kingdom Halls. They might use the excuse that they need the
land to fund wars or something of that possessions. Money, property, things,
will be meaningless to us. Only our heavenly treasures will have value. Some
of us may have to find shelter with other Witnesses.
5. We will have no legal rights to speak of. Going to court, the police,
etc. Any rights gained by us to date will not exist.
6. The Bible does not tell us how far things will go, only that we will wait
on Jehovah to take action.
7. The Kings of the North and South prophesies are coming true. They are
very important to us, even though we don't know who the king of the north is
yet. He also brought out that we don't understand everything yet, and may
not have complete understanding before this all occurs.
8. Gog of Magog is also important. He will be spewing his rage because of
the Witnesses of Jehovah. He will do anything he can to destroy us. Daniel
11:45.
9. This will be worse than any war ever fought on earth before.
Other scriptures mentioned in connection to these points: Eze 38:10, 13, 16,
22; Isaiah 30:15; Zechariah 14: 12, 13
10. No matter what happens to us during this time, we can take comfort that
God is with us. Romans 8:31. There are more with us than are with them.
Psalms 56:11, 118:16; 16:8. God will not save each and every one of his
witnesses from death, but we have too much value to him for him to let us
all be exterminated.
11. Apostates are rampant, (Matthew 24:24 )waiting for a time when they can
publicly denounce God's people. That doesn't mean they are not active now.
They are publishing materials and speaking loudly. But it will get worse.
And as Jesus and Paul pointed out, there will be traitors in the
congregation. Probably more than we have thought there would be. Because of
this we need to be cautious as serpents and gentle as doves. There will be
no need for some to know everything, especially the government.
12. Physical signs (Matthew 24:29). These will happen. The celestial signs
will occur( i.e. sun darkened, moon not there), and in such a manner as to
leave people in no doubt as to who is causing them. These will be in
conjunction with his vengeance on those persecuting his people. Zephaniah
1:17, 18. How can they hurt us if they have no eyes to see us? How can they
pull a trigger if they have no arms? As Matthew 24 points out, (verses
30-31) there will also be an angelic presence in the heavens- a visible one.
He
in the heavens, sword drawn, with the angels behind him. THESE SIGNS WILL
TAKE PLACE.
13. There will probably be a time when the preaching work will slow
drastically. Our main focus may be on keeping alive and enduring.
i know what you'll say now, but, back when you were 'in' mentally and/or phsically did you ever enjoy or look forward to the meeting with the co on friday nights??.
they are the worst!
(one coming up this month for me) (yes, i will have the flu!
leavingwt: I did the same thing!! "Ohh bummer bro. P.O., he's coming that week...I'll be out of town on vacaction" - one time I actually made the vac plans after his visit date was announced at the scv meeting, (got on travelocity that very night) my wife wasn't there that night, so she had no idea until a month or so later that the dates conflicted.
i know what you'll say now, but, back when you were 'in' mentally and/or phsically did you ever enjoy or look forward to the meeting with the co on friday nights??.
they are the worst!
(one coming up this month for me) (yes, i will have the flu!
I know what you'll say now, but, back when you were 'in' mentally and/or phsically did you ever enjoy or look forward to the meeting with the CO on friday nights??
They are the worst! (one coming up this month for me) (yes, I will have the flu! that night) Anyway, was it ever encouraging for you?
Did you take away any "spritual gems" (tm)?
I can't imagine anyone actually looking forward to a meeting with this guy!
I remember the last one...some of us got pretty beat up re: svc time. Heads were hanging lowon the way out....at that point we were just glad we weren't elders and had to stay longer!
so my wife and i want to take my nephews to a fun outdoor place this weekend!
but wait...!!
!...their dad won't let them go.
good point. I know many who have left "the truth" because their parents were so over the top hard core. 99% service and meetings and 1% fun = "bye bye"
