@ Yaddayadda2 - I love this:
"Have you ever noticed how miracles only happened in the very ancient past and will only happen again in the future?
They never happen right now. Never.
Funny that."
~YY2
from ancient accounts hostile to christinity, we can learn the following:.
jesus was born and lived in palestine.
he was born, supposedly, to a virgin and had an earthly father who was a carpenter.
@ Yaddayadda2 - I love this:
"Have you ever noticed how miracles only happened in the very ancient past and will only happen again in the future?
They never happen right now. Never.
Funny that."
~YY2
just reviewed the cd-rom to get the historical view on blind obedience.. suprisingly, the wt has had some flip-flopping ideas on this.. should we 'blindly obey'?no - w63 2/1 p. 73 par.
3 conduct "worthy of the good news".
and as we consider these commands of god, it is not just blind obedience that is required but, rather, seeking with 'our whole mind and heart' to understand and appreciate why god tells us to do this or that, or not to do a certain thing, so that we may serve him with understanding.
OMG...Thank god...I thought they made a rule / "reccomendation" about not wearing Flip flops (sandals, thongs, zorries). They'd alienate a lot of So Californians and Hawaiians with that one. lol. Read your topic all wrong.
sorry temporary hi-jack.
I am using the flip flopping of doctrine to slowly show my wife what once was "truth" is no longer "truth" ... If that's the case what else is wrong , dun, dun, dun....
from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.
it seems that the wts legal dept.
has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.
Sorry OP...this is bogus, I share the same feelings as Mr. donuthole who said:
"However the idea of the JW getting Facebook and YouTube (Google) to change their policy is ridiculous JW fantasy. It's as laughable as the other rumor that a Pixar animator praised the Caleb & Sophia cartoons. Facebook is not going to change policy and their website to serve the whims of a fringe religion looking to crack down on discontent."
couldnt have said it better myself.
i was wondering how many of you suffered badly with depression when you were in "the truth" and if you feel your depression was related to being part of the organisation?
are you better now you have left or still have issue's?
whatever your experience's i would be very intrested to know (if you feel you can talk about it.).
Personally I never suffered from depression while in the borg. I do feel it now however...I took the red pill and there's no going back. To lose one's religion and whole system of belief is hard. I wouldn't go back to my old self however, even though on "paper" I was happier. Something about knowing TTATT is a way better option. IMO.
F%^& YOU WB&TS
1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.
3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.
4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).
Thanks for all your replies!!
1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.
3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.
4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).
This is by no means an exact scale ;-) feel free to write down your own # and stage of JWdum
1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.
3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.
4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).
1 - Still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.
2 - Concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe
3 - 98% sure it's BS, but still go for / with family
4 - Anger / Denial, Inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc)
5 - FADED, DA'd, DF'd - NEVER WILL RETURN!!!
I personally am a 3.5, my wife is a 2 (although does not no it)
i saw the film the giver tonight.
all i could think about through the whole movie was the organization.
any thoughts?.
watching this movie now....great film if you're waking up from a cult.
what is the society's current view on medical marijuana?
obviously smoking is a no-no, but what about edibles, or oils (think they're called tinctures)??.
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Thanks for the replies...I was curiuous about any local needs talks that had been given or specific articles in mags. Souds from the gist, that it's don't ask don't tell.
what is the society's current view on medical marijuana?
obviously smoking is a no-no, but what about edibles, or oils (think they're called tinctures)??.
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hello....anyone....
Bump for my UK bros....who are just getting up & having some coffee.