i believe that a coup is one of the governing body's worst nightmares.. imagine a splinter group led by anointed ones that draw off enough of a following to cause confusion about who is directing the organization.. this may be one of the reasons the governing body removed the special status of the anointed and placed it on an organizational arrangement that they just happen to occupy.. the irony is that this action is a coup in itself.
by declaring themselves leaders in complete control of the organization, they have created a rival group composed of those who disagree.
these people have no obligation to follow these newly self appointed leaders.
DT said "splinter group led by anointed ones that draw off enough of a following to cause confusion about who is directing the organization."
I personally think that is unlikely as the current GB have the money and the infastructure. Who would actually listen to a group of annointed men from nearby areas marching on Bethel?
A High-up coup???...maybe some "Ray Franz-esque" ballsy bros with some power already at bethel...that would be awesome. Although unlikely, I share your optimism!
TD
all of these threads about the 'new light' regarding the fds has got me wondering.
as ex-jws, we've trained ourselves to notice such things.
we tend to treat them as if they're of great significance, even convey a certain level of optimism that it will actually wake some up, make some think, even lead to some sort of mass revolution within the ranks.. do rank-and-file jws really see any significance, or is it just wishful thinking?
I would have condisdered myself a typical R afd F back in the day, although I was an MS, while (mentally) in. I think back to the 95 generation change, I was almost 30, on my way to being an elder (if I just got my hours up..dammit) not a spiritual "giant" or really deep 'doctrinal thinker' but not an idiot either...to give myself a little credit anyway ;-)
I regretfully say that the change in 95 didn't do anything to me...I didn't think "huh, that's really weird, what the hell is going on in NY" I swallowed it as new light from imperfect men, who were doing the best they could...and we were the closest thing to the truth. I actually stopped thinking about it after the closing song. I was ready to go home have a burger and a beer and watch some football.
I would venture to say that a large percentage now are like the "former me".......unfortunately.
TD
i am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
Recovery, you are wasting your time. Thank you for promoting www.jwfacts.com ... it is one of the first sites I discovered when researching my religion. I imagine that %99.9999 of people will find this to be a great site written by a genuine guy just trying to help people see the duplicitous nature of the WTS. The %.0001 are crazy JWs like you (who are probably counting time) trying to find imaginary contradictions. If the author has made an honest mistake in verbage (being human) I'm sure he will have no problem correcting it. Just to be clear though, the only thing you are doing by starting these threads is to promote a helpful website, called www.jwfacts.com
and i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
Amen MC Rubber...
So sad to hear this news. A life lost...I am very sad. We should all respect others when they come here to vent and express themselves. If you have nothing nice or supportive to say, move on to another post.
don't you hate these misleading headers.
i usually wait a day to see if there are a significant number of posters to the page.. but just look at the number of visitors that click on these kinds of subjects.. it builds up really fast.. i don't mind the time factor (1 milisecond) clicking on a bogus "new-secret-this will bring the org crashing down" type of post, but i have to admit it is very disappointing.. .
As soon as I see the dramatic headline I look over to see who posted it. If it's from a known wack-job, I don't click on it. If it's from somebody very credible it will be the first post I open. Most times it's a waste of time, like in this case. What makes it more of a waste is that I am actually replying to this.
part 3 (which is where the actual meeting begins) is finished.
it took my computer hours and hours to render and upload it!!
anyway, this is what i just posted on my youtube channel:.
Awesome job recording that and getting it on youtube for the world to see. Do you think they will ever find out that they are "online"?...would love to hear about their reaction?
Can the society put up a legal fuss about a JC meeting being online...if the "glorious ones" didn't know they were being recorded? Just curious.
Again...great job!!!
today i was watching nicledeon with the kids.
and right before my eyes, on my own tv screen i found the original caleb & sparlock!.
it's called mike the knight, with his little sparlock sister!
dang, ya gotta be quick around here ;-)
today i was watching nicledeon with the kids.
and right before my eyes, on my own tv screen i found the original caleb & sparlock!.
it's called mike the knight, with his little sparlock sister!
Interesting...you should forward the Sparlock info to Nick. Wouldn't that be awesome if they sued the WTS
and....re: Johnny Walker Whiskey
I didn't recognize the name...thanks to google maps I see it's right near T-town, Wa...I go there a lot. In laws live there...love the NW (when the weather is nice) Do you live there?
my father in law had his surgery and had some complications but is being released from the hospital today.. we all appreciate the well wishes!
thanks again!.
I am well wishing away ;-) Hope he continues to improve!
