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  Do you feel smarter than the dubs still inside?

  by Samuel Thorsen in

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  i do .

  am i wrong?

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  milligal

  I'm with you-I feel smarter.

  The reason?

  When my younger brother committed suicide after being df'd for demonism I took his story to three psychologists (at the Phd level) and found out he was most likely schizophrenic. My JW siblings threw out all his belongings. Later my other two brothers suffered schizophrenic like episodes...what did my JW parents do? Took one to a chirpractor and the other to Bethel to seek counsel from the brothers....stupid! And one person has died because of it. I am remiss to make excuses for that type of ignorant behavior.

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  My ex (JW) wants me to set up playdates for son with JW's!!!

  by milligal in

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  let me preface my story by stating that my ex put me through a 3 year long divorce (complete with private investigators and psychological evaluations) and 4 more years of custody battles until i ran out of money and had to concede and give our son over to him.. my ex called me about my summer parenting time coming up soon and wants to drive our son to my home town which is now in a different state then he is in.

  then he asked me for a couple days of my parenting time so he could take our son to the local congregation and set up some playdates with witness kids!

  i have been df'd for 8 years, never been back to meetings and my husband is in the military....we celebrate holidays!

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  milligal

  What I told him (my ex) was that our son is too young to be put in this situation and we can talk more about it when he is old enough to make his own choice (like 18 years old!!!)
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  My ex (JW) wants me to set up playdates for son with JW's!!!

  by milligal in

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  let me preface my story by stating that my ex put me through a 3 year long divorce (complete with private investigators and psychological evaluations) and 4 more years of custody battles until i ran out of money and had to concede and give our son over to him.. my ex called me about my summer parenting time coming up soon and wants to drive our son to my home town which is now in a different state then he is in.

  then he asked me for a couple days of my parenting time so he could take our son to the local congregation and set up some playdates with witness kids!

  i have been df'd for 8 years, never been back to meetings and my husband is in the military....we celebrate holidays!

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  milligal

  Let me preface my story by stating that my ex put me through a 3 year long divorce (complete with private investigators and psychological evaluations) and 4 more years of custody battles until I ran out of money and had to concede and give our son over to him.

  My ex called me about my summer parenting time coming up soon and wants to drive our son to my home town which is now in a different state then he is in. I said 'fine'. Then he asked me for a couple days of my parenting time so he could take our son to the local congregation and set up some playdates with witness kids! No, no and NO!!! I have been df'd for 8 years, never been back to meetings and my husband is in the military....we celebrate holidays! Is there any reason to believe I'm going to encourage my son to associate with witnesses??

  I wonder if my ex is particularly abnormal or if other witnesses are so brazen....anyone care to share?
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  Why can't I just move on? (A blog post)

  by B_Deserter in

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  milligal

  Well put. I usually have a lot to add but I think these posts express so adequately what ex-JW's (and some current JW's) go through....
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  What really is a Soul Mate? --- Is it possible Yes or No?

  by Hope4Others in

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  soul mate.

  n. one of two persons compatible with each other in disposition, point of view, or sensitivity.

  there seems to be a variety of defintions on the net so what does "soul mate" mean?.

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  milligal

  Yes BUT:

  People change and adjust and relationships vary from year to year. My husband and I have a huge amount in common and we really enjoy being around each other, plus he's attractive, plus everything else is good : ) but before and after deployments (he's active duty) we have a hard time being around each other for 2-4 weeks. I do believe in soul mates with the understanding that you won't always feel the soul and you won't always want to mate....
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  ???Do you spank your kids???

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

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  tell me how you feel about spanking your kids - be honest now!!!

  have you ever, and under what circumstances?.

  what other methods of discipline do you use?

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  My older son would cry if I yelled at him or even talked sternly, he didn't need a spank. My younger son.....let's just say I never believed in putting children on leashes before I had him. He's a little wild man and when I do spank it's not whipping or paddling, it's a smack on his pull-up, noisy and abrupt. I have to get his attention sometimes because he acts out many dangerous behaviors, or some days I just can't get through to him that I'm serious.

  My opinion of 'spanking' however you want to define it (short of beating of course) is that the end goal is to reach your child, help them understand that you really need them to hear you, and listen to you. If this form of discipline is used as an outlet for anger-THEN I think it's wrong.
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  Talked to a woman about her custody battle tonight

  by B_Deserter in

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  she messaged me on youtube about my video, really wanted to talk to me about jws.

  i called her tonight and we talked about the jws and how her husband is trying to keep her kids away from her.

  it's basically all the same stuff we've heard from every jw/non-jw custody battle.

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  milligal

  I went through a custody battle with a JW that's part of the reason I am pre-law now. No attorney's are going to know the buttons to push like someone who's been there. Plus most attorney's and Judges are rermiss to make an issue out of religious issues which the government tries not to legislate.

  I don't think there are any spirits out there to rescue us from this, we have to rescue ourselves.
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  Sunday's public talk...

  by kzjw in

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  went with the wife this week for the public talk (i simply will not sit through the watchtower study), the subject was about how poorly governments are taking care of thier people in disasters.

  the speaker(who had a british accent) started by saying "burma(myanmar) had 2 tsunamis and the government sent flat screen tv's as aid for the refugees..." needless to say this dillweed lost me for the next 30 minutes of his talk about how man can't care for god's people.

  i left during the study as always and returned at the end of the meeting, still burning over the glaring lie told by this "brother" which by the way no one even batted an eye in the congregation!

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  I don't have one specific quote to offer you, but in my 25 years of going to meetings I repeatedly heard how the witnesses were such great citizens and they had all these examples of how people wanted them as employees, they were great neighbors yada yada yada. All this from the stage -all the time. When I got into a legal battle with my ex (JW) over our son, WOW the comments that people in the community made about witnesses. We're talking police officers, psychologists, attorney's you-name it. People in this community were loathe to deal with JW's. They found them rigid, unreasonable and difficult.

  Come to find out my sister had the same experience on the other side of the U.S. during her divorce.

  I think a lot of what is said from the platform is accepted as true and never questioned.
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  Witnesses are not and should not be judgmental?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  firstly, forgive me for not being able to quote the article directly.

  i noticed it yesterday while sitting in the sunday indoctrination session.

  the article for next weeks watchtower study talks about viewing other people as jehovah views them.

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  milligal

  The theory about ending disfellowshipping seems like a stretch to me. It is JW's primary method of control.

  1-they brag that they are better people (more moral) than most, fewer divorces, more righteous behavior good citizens etc.etc.

  2-this is how they identify themselves, they are always right and any views outside of their own are always wrong

  3-there is no way for them to enforce the behaviors they want to brag about without forcing out the people who won't agree and disallowing the notion that disobedience might lead to happiness to take root in the minds of the congregation

  For example; you have a sister who is having marital troubles (husband hits her, watches porn and is emotionally absent) the elders are going to counsel this woman to remain married to her husband, God hates a divorcing etc. But what if this sister knows of another sister who divorced her husband and although not a witness anymore, she has found happiness and stability? The witnesses regularly block this awareness from taking place by booting out the person who has disobeyed and demonizing them (have you ever heard of a disfellowshipped person who was not a 'drunk' 'whore' 'barfly' ?)

  The witnesses have to separate the disobedient ones from the flock in order to maintain control over those that remain. I don't think disfellowshipping will ever be done away with.
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  Why bad things happen to good people...part II

  by milligal in

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  on a further note from the last thread i posted, i was wondering: in reference to the jw teaching that god was challenged by satan in the garden of eden (and i don't know how many other religions teach this) does it make sense to anyone that an all-powerful god would care?

  if satan really was a lesser creature, and the only individuals who would know he challeneged god were the angels looking on -god's creations, then it does not seem logical to me that god would feel threaterned/offended or in any way slighted enough to allow all the misery that has taken place simply for the purpose of rectifying this challenge.

  simply put: why would god care?

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  milligal

  On a further note from the last thread I posted, I was wondering: in reference to the JW teaching that God was challenged by Satan in the garden of eden (and I don't know how many other religions teach this) does it make sense to anyone that an all-powerful god would care? If Satan really was a lesser creature, and the only individuals who would know he challeneged God were the angels looking on -God's creations, then it does not seem logical to me that God would feel threaterned/offended or in any way slighted enough to allow all the misery that has taken place simply for the purpose of rectifying this challenge.

  Simply put: why would God care? (If God is as the JW's describe him in personality) It does not make sense to me that a being that is supposed to be higher than me, perfect and bearing untold powers would act like a child when insulted or challenged.