My parents used to be very good friends with the Wheelers - as I recall they had a double wedding with them. As I understand it one of their dad's (the wife's?) is an "apostate".
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anyone from the St. Louis, MO/ SW illinois area?
by SnakesInTheTower inillinois circuit 6 or 7 and mo 5, 1, 2, 10?
(southern iliinois/se/ne missouri) especially.... snakes (.
ps i have ties to the area.... pm me if you dont want to post publicly.
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anyone from the St. Louis, MO/ SW illinois area?
by SnakesInTheTower inillinois circuit 6 or 7 and mo 5, 1, 2, 10?
(southern iliinois/se/ne missouri) especially.... snakes (.
ps i have ties to the area.... pm me if you dont want to post publicly.
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Snakes, Interesting assessment of Wood River as being bigots and racists. I grew up there in that hall - but I never got that impression. Spot on with it being dead. It is really sad cause there are many good people there.
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Holy Disfellowshipping batman
by lancelink inwow, .
i heard yesterday that 50 (yes 50) young people have been disfellowshipped within the past month in my .
old circuit.
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DonutsToGo
I know that sometimes kids are involved in some activities but keep pretty tight lipped about it. Then suddenly one kid goes before a JC and starts spilling what he knows and pretty it snowballs to include more and more kids. Something like this happened a few years ago in my old hall where it seemed like there was an announcement every week - though I think there were more reproofs than df's.
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Boring bookstudy book...which one was the worst?
by White Dove ini remember the old timers saying that the red babylon book was the hardest to understand.. in my memory, i'd have to say the isaiah books and daniel book were the most involved and boring.. the revelation book had gorgeous pictures in it (the writing was horribly boring), so i just looked at them, and i was 22 at the first study of it!.
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Notblind - that is how I remember the Isaiah books. The worst part was finishing the one and then rolling right over into part two - which was equally thick. Those two have my vote.
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anyone from the St. Louis, MO/ SW illinois area?
by SnakesInTheTower inillinois circuit 6 or 7 and mo 5, 1, 2, 10?
(southern iliinois/se/ne missouri) especially.... snakes (.
ps i have ties to the area.... pm me if you dont want to post publicly.
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DonutsToGo
Yeah from Wood River, Ilinois most of life with a brief stint near Rolla, MO. Interesting to hear about the Anna, Murphyboro, Carbondale merger.
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Why I Hate Fredrick Franz so much!
by Witness 007 inimagine you lived thru many, many false prophecies 1879......1914.......1918......1925 {when the other franz's gave up}.......1940's {rutherford said the fascist would start armagedon}..........and then you start you own false prophecy 1975........what is wrong with this man?
he saw the damage this caused....the thousands that left in droves each time!
yet before he goes senile he has one more crack at it, sending maybe 1.5 million brothers apostate??
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There is definate a trend with end-time predictions ...
Miller predicted the end in 1844 - it doesn't come and there is dissapointment - Miller loses zeal for end-time prophecies
Barbour, a Millerite, recalculates and suggests a new date of 1874 with a rapture at 1878 - it doesn't come to pass and there is dissapointment. Barbour loses interest end-time calculations.
Russell, an associate of Barbour, recalculates and suggests 1914 as the new date of the rapture and end - it doesn't come to pass and there is great dissapointment. Russell dies.
Rutherford, a student of Russell, recalculates and suggests 1925 as the new date of the end - it doesn't come to pass and there is great dissapointment. Rutherford dies.
Franz, a junior associate of Rutherford, recalculates and suggests 1975-76 as the new date of the end ...
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I am scared for my life. Problems with punks.
by SnakesInTheTower inso i have been having problems with the renters that moved in next door.
the last 3 months have been a living hell.
i have an ongoing complaint with the slumlord that owns the property and the city is taking him to court for derelict vehicles next week (which i anonymously complained about, but i am sure i am being blamed for).
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Snakes,
I'm sorry to hear about your experience. On personal level I totally hate confrontation so I can somewhat understand what you are saying - though I've never dealt with anything near what you are going through.
For the sake of balance ...
Don't kill the guy - apologise for getting off on a bad foot, invite him over for pizza and beer. I'm sorry if this answer sounds flippant, I'm totally serious.
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Pro's and Con's of DAing myself.
by lancelink ini have been wrestling with the idea of da'ing myself for close to a year now.
but there is a small area in my subconscious that whispers "this is not a good idea.
i haven't been to a meeting in over six months, no service in seven years.
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There is the suggestion put forth here that you are not bound by their rules so why should you feel obligated to disassociate. I agree that you owe them nothing. However, you have to understand that by not disassociating you are still in bondage. How so? Ask yourself, if by remaining "technically" a JW would you find yourself continually looking over your shoulder, guarding your speech, or otherwise being in fear of discovery? Is so you would be a slave and you may find that you are not free to pursue life in a way that you would had you made a complete seperation.
I'm a firm believer in the Truth and if the fact that you speak about how not DA-ing makes you feel "dishonest" leads me to believe you value the truth as well. I personally would find it difficult, if not impossible, to live such a double-life and keep good conscience. I will testify that standing up for the Truth is liberating and worth every loss that it brings.
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Do you want to know the truth? WT's new campain...
by justhuman inhas anyone see the new wt's campain
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DonutsToGo
This tract is seriously in error -
It starts out with the false assumption that the Word spoken of by Jesus Christ in the Gospel of John is "the Bible". From page 1 in the Gospel of John, the Word is clearly identified as Jesus. The tract then serves to shift attention from Jesus to the Bible. This may not seem like a bad thing - but consider the word spoken by Jesus concerning similar teachers in his day,
“Y OU are searching the Scriptures, because YOU think that by means of them YOU will have everlasting life; and these are the very ones that bear witness about me. And yet YOU do not want to come to me that YOU may have life." - John 5:39, 40, NWT
It is entirely possible to be students of the Scriptures, searching for answers to questions, but missing the answer, Jesus. He is the Truth (John 14:6) and yet the Watchtower continually fails to direct attention to him.
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What is the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you at a meeting?
by IHaveADream inmine was the time i had my twin grandsons with me and i was sitting in the overflow room.
they both needed to go potty at the same time.
so i tried to pick both of them up.
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Mine happened during one written review -
My wife had studied a head and quickly wrote down all of the answers and then went back to the Baby room, with our infant daughter.
As the time started winding down I was behind so I copied down the rest of her answers, including those for the fill in the blank portion. I decided to answer one of the fill in the blank questions using one of her answers.
I can't remember the question but I recall my answer, "The Jews"
BUZZ. WRONG. BUZZ.
the correct answer was "Jehovah's Witnesses", which my wife had abbreviated as "JWS", and I had miscopied as "Jews".