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  Should women be allowed to have 14 kids without job?

  by sammielee24 in

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  independent_tre

  This is a quote from the article:

  Diane G. Sanford, a psychologist and author specializing in women's reproductive mental health, said while she doesn't know much about Nadya Suleman's background, women that have obsessive-compulsive disorder can become fixated on different obsessions.

  Whether it's washing your hands 180 times a day or being obessed with popping out babies you have NO intention or plan on supporting, goes beyond the realm of normal behavior. I guarantee that she can be diagnosed with multiple issues, - probably lacks a sense of the reality surrounding her. Her extreme case is being confused with a woman wanting a large family, but having the right supportive elements in place. Living off your parents and driving your own mother to have psychiatric problems and not caring about how all these children will be fed and cared for, also seems a bit narcissistic (sp?)
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  Should women be allowed to have 14 kids without job?

  by sammielee24 in

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  Then the state began requiring healthcare providers to ensure their Medicaid patients weren't on the list of molesters before prescribing Viagara. Problem solved. I believe in regulating healthcare providers.

  Exactly, IMO a good deal of this case is really not about the government regulating people's reproductive choices as it is regulating medical treatments/drugs as it always has. There are tons of medical regulations on the books, and it's already apparent that implanting 8 embryos was highly questionable even life threatening - whether she had other children or not.

  I'm as liberal as the next person, but, I'm very tired of the argument for reproductive rights supporting extreme cases like this. I do not believe that anyone should be able to have as many children as they like, especially if they exhibit signs of mental instability. When a person's "rights" begin to significantly impose on the public good it is no longer a private matter - take that how you want to.
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  Your favourite wise quote? Mine is...

  by Newborn in

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  "don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened".

  (do i dare to think what may come from oompa, joe d, outlaw etc).

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  “The easiest thing to be in the world is you. The most difficult thing to be is what other people want you to be. Don't let them put you in that position.”
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  Watchtower Speech Taboos - Censorship by Ommision

  by unclebruce in

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  bahbuttons said: another time i accidently told a kid god bless you in the kh and you'd think i just said every swear word known to man with the looks i got from everyone....another embaressing moment that was.............fond memories eh,lolquoteendquoteeend.

  th is an interesting point.

  apostates always bang on about watchtower double speak and the way the society twists words, investing them with mind-control triggers but rarely do we hear about censorship by omission, the words jw's can't speak.

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  bet ( as in 'I bet you can't say that')

  that anything sucks
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  Family is shunning us.

  by AgentSmith in

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  mrs smith and i have faded away for many years.

  we knew the day will come that we would be questioned directly what our stand is.. this past holidays we were confronted by our jw family.

  we told them the truth, we are not jw's anymore and that we go to any church that strikes our fancy.

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  Thank you for sharing your experience and having the courage to finally be honest with your family - something I have a hard time fathoming in my situation, but eventually I will have to do the same for my own sanity and peace.

  I am beginning to find it very hard to grow spiritually, but at the same time have to lie and/or hide how I really feel. I haven't been out a year yet, and with DC time coming, everyone is asking.. when's your convention? what hotel are you at? did you see the program, etc..etc...

  I really tried to break it to my mom, that I was having doubts, but she got really emotional, teary and telling me that doubting is what Satan wants, yadda, yadda, yadda. I couldn't tell her the whole truth.

  Anyway, I know it's hard right now but hang in there. The internet is exposing this religion more and more for what it is and you never know who in your family may stumble onto the real truth. Plus, from what I see, it gets easier.

  Take care.
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  True Religion vs. False Religion and James 1:27

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  something that opened my eyes as i was re-examining "the truth" was the verse at james 1:27. in the new world translation the greek word in this verse, threskeia, is translated worship, which is fine except that it hides a more important meaning.

  this same word can be, and most often is translated religion.. for witnesses, the matter of being the "one true religion" is all important.

  pure and undefiled religion before god and the father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, to keep oneself unspotted from the world.. english revised version.

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  nice find. Its shameful how the WT selects certain words and translates them differently for a self serving purpose. I'm glad you brought that out.
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  Test: are you in a cult?

  by WuzLovesDubs in

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  remember this?

  it really made me start to think about what i had gotten myself into.. john d. goldhammer.

  are you "under the influence".

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  This awesome, I'm saving this quiz. What's scary is that most JW would probably refuse to even evaluate themselves from the standpoint of this quiz.
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  How about a list of "loaded" words used by the JW's?

  by cawshun in

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  apostate.

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  'new arrangement'

  goat-like, stiff-necked , murmurers, 'rebellious talk of Korah' - Old Testament references to people who don't obey the GB edicts
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  How about a list of "loaded" words used by the JW's?

  by cawshun in

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  apostate.

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  'the slave'

  usually in reference to the GB
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  What convinced you?

  by heybaby in

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  as far as doctrine goes, what finally convinced you that this isn't the truth?

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  Of course, I had doubts like so many others and those doubts became firm convictions that the WTS was not God's sole channel. But I had dabbled with pretending to believe and still go to meetings ( for the sake of keeping up appearances). I think the one that sent me over the edge was finding out that they teach that Jesus is NOT the mediator for all of mankind. All while I was investigating their history on my own, I continued studying the Bible and reading the book of Romans in a different bible, really made an impact on me. ANY organization that teaches that a relationship with God or Jesus must come through an 'organization' as an intervener is clearly teaching falsehood.