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Take the Beliefnet test... and post your results!

by Awakened at Gilead in

an atheist friend (never a jw) sent me a link to this fun test:.

http://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/quizzes/beliefomatic.aspx.

turns out i am 100% secular humanist, but unfortunately i am still 5% jw!.

recovering

1.	Unitarian Universalism(100%)
2.	Liberal Quakers(95%)
3.	Neo-Pagan(94%)
4.	Secular Humanism(90%)
5.	New Age(89%)
6.	Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants(82%)
7.	Theravada Buddhism(78%)
8.	Mahayana Buddhism(73%)
9.	Reform Judaism(68%)
10.	Taoism(64%)
11.	Baha'i Faith(62%)
12.	Nontheist(59%)
13.	Sikhism(58%)
14.	Scientology(58%)
15.	New Thought(54%)
16.	Jainism(53%)
17.	Orthodox Quaker(53%)
18.	Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist)(43%)
19.	Hinduism(38%)
20.	Orthodox Judaism(34%)
21.	Islam(32%)
22.	Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant(28%)
23.	Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons)(26%)
24.	Eastern Orthodox(24%)
25.	Roman Catholic(24%)
26.	Seventh Day Adventist(21%)
27.	Jehovah's Witness(8%)

damned my third most likely was neo pagan

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IF YOU TOLD A JW A RUMOUR, WOULD THEY SPREAD THE RUMOUR AROUND?

by badboy in

jw
friends

lets say i told them something scandalious about an adherent of another demination(sp?

), would they spread it around?.

recovering

faster than you could tell it to them.

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

amen outlaw, I choose to define myself as one who is earnestly seeking truth no matter where that may lead me. The organization has proven itself to be a false prophet by their many false teachings and non biblical rhetoric. I am not trying to start a new religion or speaking against god. I am compelled to continue searching and examining . I will never allow them to define who I am.

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

Hmmm have I abandoned my religion yes, Have I abandoned my principles no. I would not mind being called an apostate if the only connotation it had was abandoning my former faith. I was born into the religion and was baptized by the time I was 12. I never had a chance to truly analyze the veracity of the religion. I do however object to being considered an apostate if the definition of apostate is the ones the JWs use. I never turned my back on god, just the organization of JWs. I know that they can not truly be speaking for a loving god. As has been pointed out earlier in this thread I firmly believe the organization of JWs has apostated themselves from the true true teachings of Christ. Hence, I feel that to allow them to label us as apostates is insulting. Perhaps I am being overly sensitive. It is just such such a loaded word when they use it in referance to those of us who question the veracity of their teachings.

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

sorry for the double posts

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

I think that the witnesses use the term to further try and control their members. I also tend to agree with psycologist who think such terms are used to brain wash and keep total control if it's members.

A remarkable thing about cult mind control is that it's so ordinary in the tactics and strategies of social influence employed. They are variants of well-known social psychological principles of compliance, conformity, persuasion, dissonance, reactance, framing, emotional manipulation, and others that are used on all of us daily to entice us: to buy, to try, to donate, to vote, to join, to change, to believe, to love, to hate the enemy.

Cult mind control is not different in kind from these everyday varieties, but in its greater intensity, persistence, duration, and scope. One difference is in its greater efforts to block quitting the group, by imposing high exit costs, replete with induced phobias of harm, failure, and personal isolation. Source: Phillip G. Zimbardo, Ph.D., What Is The Message Behind Today's Cults?

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

Thanks Gregor. I was not sure if those posting really did consider themselves apostates. I felt that by allowing the JWs to label us we where allowing them to still control our thoughts. I do question their policies and beliefs, however I do not think that I am actively opposing god.

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

I think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!! Does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches? That is what the apostle Paul says in the bible. So if the bible says to examine what we are taught and only hold on to what is true, we should not be considered apostates in my opinion.

Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
Bible quote, Apostle Paul, 1 Thessalonians 5: 21

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

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Adventist lawyers bully small Jewish sect over name

by kurtbethel in

it looks like watchtower lawyers are not alone in protecting their business interests even if it means bullying someone's religious faith.. http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/12/21/news/sandiego/z5f313b68926a1807882575210081e64b.txt.

jewish group sued over 'adventist' namevalley center ---- what's the first thing that pops to mind upon hearing the word "adventist"?.

the seventh-day adventist church, probably.. .

recovering

interesting especially in view of the fact that witnesses are in fact an offshoot of 2nd day adventists