When I was at pioneers school in 1992, the school instructors told us that we have no clair understanding in this matter. But at a district assembly about 1 or 2 years ago in the theocratic school part, a sister commented on the highlights about ressurection and said that Jesus clairly stated that in the ressurection no body gets married.
Kosonen
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Can I get help with a question
by free2beme incan anyone provide the link of watchtower year and month, that mentions that the resurrected jehovah's witnesses (all resurrected) will not be able to marry again.
as they will no longer have a desire for marriage..
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'Just as important as the preaching work' question. Please respond.
by compound complex ina thread regarding the wt view of the importance of good works, whose title i cannot recall, was posted not too long ago.
there has been talk locally about a watchtower that equates these acts of charity with the preaching work.
is that a correct interpretation of present truth?.
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Kosonen
Through this link you can find brother James' scans of that article, that clearly states that you can not say that preaching would be more important than helpful actions for fellow christians.
http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2656
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Why exactly, DO the JWs continue to beat on doors? What is the POINT?
by WuzLovesDubs ini mean...it accomplishes nothing save making them pests all over the planet.
they dont get money from it, not enough to make any damn difference anyway...the magazines are limited to only two a month and they dont do subscriptions any more.
how many people actually are brought in this way?
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Kosonen
I think it would be enough to just put a tract in the mail box with an invitation to God's Kingdom and to get a free Bible study. Was not the cavalry of two myriads of myriads explained two symbolize the litterature, in the Revelation Climax-book?
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Organized or unorganized?
by Wicaugen ina little background.. i've been stumbling with religion over the past year, making a change from agnostic to quasi-christian during the time period, journeying with many jehovah's witnesses, a few baptists, and even two families of evangelicals.. anyway, one of the serious problems i have with the jw's is following the 'governing body'.
you understand, of course.
but i have a more urgent question.
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Kosonen
Yes, organized religion is Biblical. But it should be organized in a balanced way. That means not too much organized and also not too little organized.
In Hebrews 10:24,25 we are told to have meetings. Jesus also told Peter to feed His little sheep. (John 21:17) Jesus also told his apostles to do disciples in Matthew 28:19. So it is evident that there should be some kind of organized activity for christians. But when the shepards in the congregation are evil, hypocrites and refuse to follow the guidelines in the Bible, then this organized worship works badly, like a broken car. And the congregation members suffers. Some new maybe live in an illusion, but soon with increasing understanding of God's will they start to see that there are a lot of problems.
God's and Christ's will is to make the congregation perfect. It will take time. The final result will anyway be according to Ephesians 5: that he might sanctify it, cleansing it with the bath of water by means of the word, 27 that he might present the congregation to himself in its splendor, not having a spot or a wrinkle or any of such things, but that it should be holy and without blemish. (NWT)
Now the congregation arrangement has existed since the first centry and still it has not attaind the beauty and slendor, so surely it will take a lot of time to fullfill the purpose.
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Kosonen
Hi gubberningbody,
I strongly support you in reading the Bible all over again with open mind. Me too, when I realized that I can not trust the WT-explanations, I decided to do that. But to avoid to come to wrong conclusions myself, I every day pray the thoughts in the Lord's prayer in Matthew 6:9-13 and additional thoughts. I wish you succes in you personal Bible study.
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Kosonen
Some years ago we stayed with my family to clean the hall after the memorial and we tasted the bread and wine. It was a special joy!
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Kosonen
I'll go and I hope they won't deny me the bread and wine. Last year after my disfellowshiping I went and took from the bread and wine. I think they got disturbed. But Jesus said: Take you all.
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If you no longer believe why do you still go?
by Quirky1 injust a question i have to throw out.
i'm curious to say the least.
when i could no longer believe the bs i made up my damn mind and left and have yet to return.
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Kosonen
First of all I pray before going to the meeting that Jesus as the Head of the congregation would be present directing the speaker and those giving comments by the holy spirit. It has really a real effect. I like it.
I would be very interested in hearing more about this, if you're willing to provide more details.
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Hi LWT,
When I do that, then the meeting gets much more spiritual. The speakers speak glowing with the spirit. And they say things from their heart. They are unable to speak in a hypocritical way. They say things that are true in which they believe and forget the official society policy. Sometimes they say very contradictory things. Or they even openly critcize old society rules. For example recently speakers have said in their public talks how good it has been to get rid of a meeting per week because it was realy burdensome. The same happens with those giving comments.
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If you no longer believe why do you still go?
by Quirky1 injust a question i have to throw out.
i'm curious to say the least.
when i could no longer believe the bs i made up my damn mind and left and have yet to return.
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Kosonen
I still go once a week, sometimes twice. I do not see to it in black and white. I do not require all to be white. I think I still get some spirituality from there. But I want also to see how they are changing. And I believe I can do a great deal by praying for them. If my prayers are in harmony with God's will, then according to 1John 2:22; 5:14,15 God will do according to my prayers. First of all I pray before going to the meeting that Jesus as the Head of the congregation would be present directing the speaker and those giving comments by the holy spirit. It has really a real effect. I like it.
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WT description of getting anointed
by Kosonen inthe article "who.
reallyhaveaheavenly calling?
" watchtower 91 3/15, pages 19-22 have a description of how the anointing process happens.
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Kosonen
The article "Who
ReallyHaveaHeavenlyCalling?" Watchtower 91 3/15, pages 19-22 have a description of how the anointing process happens. Here are some parts of that article:
The 144,000 "have an anointing from the holy one," Jehovah. (1 John 2:20) It is an anointing to a heavenly hope. God has ‘put his seal upon them and has given them the token of what is to come, that is, the spirit, in their hearts.’—2 Corinthians 1:21, 22.
Yes, those with the heavenly calling have the testimony of God’s spirit to that effect. Concerning this, Paul wrote at Romans 8:15-17: "You did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: ‘Abba, Father!’ The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children. If, then, we are children, we are also heirs: heirs indeed of God, but joint heirs with Christ, provided we suffer together that we may also be glorified together." It is by means of God’s spirit, or active force, that anointed ones cry out, "Abba, Father!"
The chief evidence that a person has been anointed to the heavenly calling is a spirit, or dominant sense, of sonship. (Galatians 4:6, 7) Such an individual is absolutely sure that he has been begotten by God to spiritual sonship as one of the 144,000 joint heirs of the heavenly Kingdom. He can testify that his heavenly hope is not his own cultivated desire or his imagination; rather, it is from Jehovah as a result of the action of God’s spirit toward him.—1 Peter 1:3, 4.
Under the influence of God’s holy spirit, the spirit, or dominant attitude, of anointed ones acts as an impelling force. It moves them to respond positively to what God’s Word says about the heavenly hope. They also respond in a positive way to Jehovah’s dealings with them by means of the holy spirit. Thus, they are sure that they are God’s spiritual children and heirs.
When anointed ones read what God’s Word says about his spiritual children and the heavenly hope, their spontaneous inclination is to say within themselves, ‘This means me!’ Yes, they respond joyfully when their Father’s Word promises a heavenly reward. They say, ‘That means me!’ when they read: "Beloved ones, now we are children of God." (1 John 3:2) And when anointed ones read that God has brought people forth "to be certain firstfruits of his creatures," their mental inclination is to respond, ‘Yes, he brought me forth for that purpose.’ (James 1:18) They know that they have been "baptized into Christ Jesus" and into his death. (Romans 6:3) So they have the firm conviction of being part of Christ’s spiritual body and entertain the hope of undergoing a death like his and being resurrected to heavenly life.
Futher down in the article it says:
If Jehovah has cultivated in you the undeniable hope of heavenly life, you are counting on that. You offer prayers in expression of that hope. It engrosses you, and you cannot get it out of your system. You have consuming spiritual aspirations.