Posts by Kosonen

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Becoming of the anointed & seeing the light

by discreetslave in

i was recently born again and thus am anointed because of this i have come to realize that though there are sincere people who are jw, some teachings are fine but the wt organization is a fraud.

here is my story sorry if it's a bit long but i need to tell it.. 16 years ago today i was baptized as one of jw's.

i was 17 years old the only one in my family.

Kosonen

Hi discreetslave, I just want to tell you that I read your comment and it was encouraging. Bye Sister!

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Do you believe in an annointed class?

by irondork in

regarless of their identity - in fact, if they are really "discreet" their identity should probably remain unknown - do you believe the bible speaks of a spirit annointed class of folks, a limited number of humans that have been called to heaven to serve with jesus?.

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Kosonen

Yes and I am not ashamed of that!

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Becoming of the anointed & seeing the light

by discreetslave in

i was recently born again and thus am anointed because of this i have come to realize that though there are sincere people who are jw, some teachings are fine but the wt organization is a fraud.

here is my story sorry if it's a bit long but i need to tell it.. 16 years ago today i was baptized as one of jw's.

i was 17 years old the only one in my family.

Kosonen

Hi discreetslave again, I want to recommend http://www.paradisecafediscussions.net just now we are there developing the understanding of Babylon the Great.

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Becoming of the anointed & seeing the light

by discreetslave in

i was recently born again and thus am anointed because of this i have come to realize that though there are sincere people who are jw, some teachings are fine but the wt organization is a fraud.

here is my story sorry if it's a bit long but i need to tell it.. 16 years ago today i was baptized as one of jw's.

i was 17 years old the only one in my family.

Kosonen

Hi discreetslave, I too enjoyed reading your life story. Amazing how similar many things have been in your life as in my, forexample the service in foreign language group, and now after they disfellowshiped me, depression and difficulties. Also what lead to the anointing moment, me as you, I tried my best to do all what the "fds" told to do and most importantly that I wanted to please God. Also intense bible reading and studing. And then after been born again Jehovah God started to open my eyes to all the false teachings of WT-society. But I did not dismiss them at once, because they maybe mistaken and they could correct what was wrong, and I still consider Jehovah's witnesses to be my brothers and sisters, but mislead. I don't find other churches better, and the world don't love truth lovers. Many "godly"worldy people will likewise regard born again christians with jelousy, and if you have to work with them, they will not like you when they see that you have Christ like qualities. It is just as simple as Jesus said: For he that practices vile things hates the light and does not come to the light, (John 3:20).

It was about 6 years ago I was born again. I did not want to leave the congregation, and I wanted to help them spiritually and doctrinally, so I tried to stay in the organization, but I knew that speaking about new undertanding could lead to disfellowshipment, so I tried to strengthen my self so that if that happens I would not lose my faith and that I would not turn to a real apostate. So after about 3 years from becoming anointed I first offered GB my help in a letter. But there was no reply. So then I felt justified to talk to brothers and sisters about more correct understanding of many things. During all that time I never surched any information from apostates. So for about 2 months thanks to Jehovah God and Jesus Christ I managed to speak with many brothers and sisters in my congregation and neighbour congregations without being at once disfellowshiped, but the elders are still angry at me after 3 years. My most hot topic was that God's kingdom was not established 1914. So now as disfellowshiped without my consent, I've tried to stay spiritually alive. With downs and ups. And I try to be a discreet and wise slave and to give spiritual food and witness when possible. I hope Jehovah will give me greater opportunities. But first of all I have to become firm my self. So don't do any hasty moves, I mean, do not disassociate yourself, do as big witness as possible, don't give them up so easily. Let them be the bad guys, kicking you out. And do not let yourself be mislead by real apostates or other mistaken persons. Often even here we former witnesses have also erroneous understandings of bible prophecy and doctrines and we make ajustments to our thinking. So don't be trapped by ideas of freedom to break God's commandments, for example to abstain from blod. I have felt that since they disfellowshiped, my life has only got more difficult. And I expect that in the future I will end up in more challenging situations. But if I'll survive spiritually I have to be spiritually strong.

So dear sister I wish you the very best and I hope you make all the way to the heavenly kingdom to be there with Jesus and Jehovah God

Jan

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Aaron Russo.......Reflections and Warnings

by Judge Dread in

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friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygaapjqdbgq&feature=player_detailpage.

jdw .

Kosonen

I appreciated the youtube film. And what Aaron Russo is taking about is in fact about Babylon the Great. Interesting that the Federal reserve bank is owned by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. So all the evil comes from New York, Babylon the Great.

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Heavenly Hope

by Quendi in

here are some questions i want to pose to our friends here.

does a person have to be baptized to go to heaven and if one must get baptized, how is this to be arranged and by whom?.

the reason i ask this is many here have professed their belief that they are part of the body of christ, should partake of the emblems whenever they celebrate the lord's supper, and will go to heaven after they die if they have been faithful.

Kosonen

Hi Quendi, I support totally the answer of discreetslave above, I would say the same. So if you have been baptized in the same way it is valid. I remember when I was baptized 1988 at age of 13, one of the questions befor baptism with the elders was from the Organization-book: What does it mean to be baptized in the name of Father and Son and holy spirit? So it had to be undertood to be approved for baptism. So I regarded and still regard that I was baptized in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, even though just befor baptism at the convention they asked two other questions.

And I defend the necessity of baptism, because Jesus told: Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, ... (Mathew 28:19) And therefor Cornelius was baptized, eventhough he had already got the holy spirit. In Acts 10 we read: Then Peter responded: 47 “Can anyone forbid water so that these might not be baptized who have received the holy spirit even as we have?” 48 With that he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

And I see that you wish to become chosen by Good, or as we call it usually anointed. It is a good desire, actually Jehovah God has been since the first centry searching and inviting people to his heavenly kingdom. And he has not yet been able to get the full number of 144000 and therefor the heavenly hope is still open. And to me it seems that those who get anointed are more than usually God-minded people. Here are some scriptures showing what kind of persons are on the way to the Heavenly Kingdom. Jesus said: But from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. (Matthew 11:12) So as Jesus says, you have to be pressing forward. That means you should not let the "organization" hinder you to speak about the truth as they say: Be quiet and wait for Jehovah, and don't disturb us. And it is not only the jw-society which opposes the truth, but generally the whole world is against the truth.

And a scripture that shows that you have to be God-minded: James 2:5: Listen, my beloved brothers. God chose the ones who are poor respecting the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he promised to those who love him, did he not?

So what I mean with God-minded, is that if you are God-minded you will strive to please God in your best way and you will love Him. This is important because Jehovah God responds to the love an individual has for him, just as the scripture above tells about those who are to be "heirs of the kingdom, which he promised to those who love him".

So Quendi, I hope this information is what you wished to hear. May God bless you.

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Faith strengthening arkeological videos about Red Sea crossing, Sodom, Mount Sinai etc

by Kosonen in

here you have it:.

www.youtube.com/sygnate.

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Kosonen

Hi DagothUR, I think you are too dogmatic and negative. There are a lot of interesting arkeological facts in these videos, confirming the Bible. And I am not alone to appreciate this. But unfortunately I have not heard the Watchtower refering to the findings of Ron Wyatt. Maybe his findings are disturbing.

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