the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
MADjw :
"that we don't need works or deeds to be Christian ?"
I would reverse your saying : know yourself as Christian first ( our Father's image, "lived" by Him here and now ), then work or do things according to the golden rule !
Sounds like : Live first, then be a philosopher...
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
designs :
"If you want to make some sense of Jesus have people follow the Golden Rule, we would be a lot better off as a civilization. Denominationalism has ruined Christianity."
Yes, consider your neighbour (whoever) as yourself, and consequently know... yourself as well !
What else ?
reading tmj4477's thread about religion after jw's and reading perry trying to counter ak-jeff on a thread about god and suffering, both of these made me want to post some eastern thought that doesn't fall into the category of "religious" but might help nonetheless.. .
excerpt from the wisdom of no escape (with subtitle: and the path of loving-kindness).
chapter 8: no such thing as a true storyin taoism there's a famous saying that goes, "the tao that can be spoken is not the ultimate tao.
from Meister Eckhart :
"The price of inaction is far greater than the cost of making a mistake."
with other quotes in www.brainyquotes.com
last year i went back to the hall while even though i was disfellowsipped 9 years ago and never intend to get reinstated.
i went back to talk to all my friends and relatives and blantantly ignore the disfellowshipping policy.
i chose to go to my jw parents hall where they are in "good standing" and regularly attend meetings as they ingnore their son.
Wow man !
You broke the spell... and the donjon vanished !
we all chewed on this article pretty well when the news first came out about the " overlapping anointed " concept , however we discussed so much on just those 2 paragraphs dealing with the new " generation " theory - that almost the rest of the article was overlooked .
our lurking inactive jw friend on the board sent us a copy of the april 15th.
i think you folks may find this interesting.. on pg.
Christopher said :
"To attribute statements like this to holy spirit, I would think, and to put these words in Jesus' mouth, should constitute some form of arrogance, if not blasphemy, in my opinion."
If I know how to read, the Gospels warn us about that absolute sin : a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit !
IMO, the WatchTower is built on that unforgivable sin.
it's very interesting comparing things that are removed.
for one, new world order and new world, new order, all being eliminated from everything.
just research nwo, "new world order", etc, to see.
following SACOLTON post 3225 :
I’m not a JW, but some of my parents are.
I almost got all I know about that cult as your fervent reader : Thanks all for what you’re teaching me.
Today, I’ve a question on the somehow frightening “unforgivable sin” the Gospels warn us about*.
So, I would like to know what the self-proclaimed GB as the Holy Spirit’s voice on Earth does say about that “sin” ?
Thanks.
*cf. Matt 12.21-32 ; Mk 3.28-30 and Lu 12.10.
thanks for your letter and the thoughts contained.
others had commented on the latest shift of the interpretation of this generation.
as you recognize this allows for an unending extension of time and likely stems from an awareness of the approach of the year 2014 marking 100 years since the date of 1914.. .
Hi jdhf,
I read (post 55) you said: " I wish I could find Him" !
Hope these little quotes could be on the dot for that...
.../...
God is at home, it’s we who have gone out for a walk.
Man goes far away or near but God never goes far-off, he is always standing close at hand, and even if he cannot stay within he goes no further than the door.
Truly, it is in darkness that one finds the light, so when we are in sorrow, then this light is nearest of all to us.
.../...
from Meister Eckhart's quotes in : www.brainyquotes.org
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thanks for your letter and the thoughts contained.
others had commented on the latest shift of the interpretation of this generation.
as you recognize this allows for an unending extension of time and likely stems from an awareness of the approach of the year 2014 marking 100 years since the date of 1914.. .
Dear SAHARA,
I guess the "desert" you're now, is the very intimacy Matt 6 / 6 is teaching about, where His Presence and your awareness are one and the same...
GBY
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i'm amazed at how many on this forum, believe the gb really believes their own lie, that they are god's "official channel".
are there many of you that believe as i do.
i believe somewhere deep down they know they are just fooling people.
"SCAM, TRICK, LIE, and the BLASPHEMOUS INSULT that it is," Still wondering, According to the NT, that could be a matter for the frightening unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit ! Hope I'm wrong... JWalker
i figure a lot of people have had their heads stuck in the cloud with images of their paradise---big homes, fancy cars, and all the jewelry left behind by those rich ole wicked people..... but what about the other side of all this?
have you wondered how jehovahjireh jihad kills us all off?
it's time to think about that now.
by The Sheer Boring Monotony Of Being A Jehovah's Witness
