They should still report it to the authorities. Like I said before, I wished more states would adopt laws that requires it.
HenryP
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"No Silence Of The Lambs"-Paducah Sun
by silentlambs inhttp://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200202/08+07ur_religion.html+20020208+religion.
no silence of the lambs .
web site for pedophile victims provides support, opportunity to share stories .
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"No Silence Of The Lambs"-Paducah Sun
by silentlambs inhttp://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200202/08+07ur_religion.html+20020208+religion.
no silence of the lambs .
web site for pedophile victims provides support, opportunity to share stories .
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HenryP
Ashitaka,
Please understand that I make no excuses for the way the abuses are covered up. They should not. The Society is trying to follow the Bible, but in some aspects, such as these crimes, they must adapt to modern Society. This, they are trying to do, that's why where the law requires it, they are informing the authorities about the child abuser or molestor. I hope that other states, even countries, adopt laws that requires the same.
Hawkaw,
I am not saying he should be disfellowship. I really doubt that he is considered in good standing.
The apostate comment is in reference to what his intentions are, shown by his previous comments.
The fact is he did lie to the reporter, but then he dares to label Watchtower attorneys as liers.
I am not fond of those that are willing to use people that have been abused as children for their own personal fights against the Watchtower. These are being abused again and again, but this time by Mr. Bowen.
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"No Silence Of The Lambs"-Paducah Sun
by silentlambs inhttp://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200202/08+07ur_religion.html+20020208+religion.
no silence of the lambs .
web site for pedophile victims provides support, opportunity to share stories .
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HenryP
The article above says
Bowen said he's not out to destroy the church
Mr. Bowen, you accuse Watchtower lawyers of lying or at least misrepresenting the facts. I believe you are also a liar in the above quote.I looked through your previous posts to see if you were genuine or not. Although I am in favor of the reporting of child abuse to the authorities, I am not in favor of someone who is out to get the Watchtower and using victims of child abuse for his personal cause.
So let us analyze if you lied in the Paducah Sun article:
You said in a previous thread on this board:
I see no purpose in serving again as an elder in a totally corrupt organization that makes the lucid choice to perpetrate a policy that hurts children.
Corrupt organization? Does this not sound like someone who is out to destroy the church?it is good for wicked arrogant men to think they answer to no one, as the fall to reality will be much harder. Can you hear that sound Governing Body? It is the sound of hard ground rushing up to smack you in the face.
This quote proves without a doubt your true intentions, destroying the church.I recently received my personal United Nations letter from the WT with their explanation of the matter.
Now if your sole purpose in your fight is against Watchtower policy regarding silentlambs, why do you now get involved in the UN thing? Is this not another sign that you are out to destroy the church for personal reasons?Jehovah's Witnesses are unique they appear on the surface to be so righteous yet underneath support wicked acts.
This is a very strong statement about JWs in general. What happened to just focusing on the child abuse issue?Here is other proof at your true intentions. In a post you claimed:
1. Ted Jaracz
2. Daniel Sydlik
3. Fred Franz
4. Ewart Chitty
5. Leo Greenlees
These men all have something in common, can you guess what it is?
SilentlambsThen you add:
the most obvious answer would be, they served on the governing body. unfortunately that is not the answer i am looking for, as far as the real answer is concerned, all i can say is that everyone will know in the not to distant future. are you listening wt??
SilentlambsYou further state:
so all i can say is just a little while longer and the wicked......wait that is a scripture. just have a little patience and soon i will be saying "DOUBT NOT" again.
SilentlambsThis is what is commonly called “slander”. Somehow you are trying to stain the reputation of Ted Jaracz, Daniel Sydlik and Fred Franz by suggesting they are involved in some sort of sin.
I would have to guess that you are referring to child abuse. Is that not your cause? You give no proof of your allegations. How does this help the silentlambs?
Than you accuse the Watchtower of
satanic ritual abuse within the wt organization
A poster asks you:
silent
That's very serious. Kind of shocking. Its the first i ever heard of the wt being in touch w this type of stuff.
I am curious though, if satan is actually spoken of by name or w a picture or image in these rituals?And you answer:
Name was used along with symbols and specifc instruments.
SilentlambsAgain, I have to ask. How does this false accusation help the silentlambs? Is this not another attempt on your part to discredit the church? Proving once again that you lied to the reporter.
In yet another post you say:
It will be Aramageddon for WT
Mr. Bowen again you show what you really want to happen to the Watchtower.
You also posted:
WT will always have the upper hand and will beat you down with self-destructive behavior. You have to break free of the programming, seize the real truth that you are what you think. What you think of yourself, your family and how you interact with others will show whether you possess in your character the honor and integrity WT has tried to destroy.
Mr. Bowen, you are showing that you are just one more common apostate out to destroy the Watchtower by insinuating that JWs are programmed. Again, why did you lie to the reporter?And finally when you find that the Watchtower Branch in London did something correct, you now sarcastically try to down play it and make fun of that fact by saying:
The British brothers are apostate. I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I can no longer cover for them anymore. The BOE letters from Britain clearly show as far back as 1992 the brothers there chose to encourage the witnesses in England to go to the police first on child molestation issues.
So Witnesses finally do something right, and you ridicule this.Are you fighting for the silentlambs, or using them as bait to bring the Watchtower down?
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LIVING 4EVER ON EARTH
by hannibal inbeing inactive for over a year now, many things .
have come to "light" about the religion i was raised.
much of witch is becuase of the insight and fine posts.
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HenryP
Before becasue he died (at least the first time) before Jesus. So by your argument, you are saying that there is an old hope? What happens to all those faithful before Christ?
You are correct on the reason he resurrected Lazarus.
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LIVING 4EVER ON EARTH
by hannibal inbeing inactive for over a year now, many things .
have come to "light" about the religion i was raised.
much of witch is becuase of the insight and fine posts.
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HenryP
I can see that heavenly life is very appealing to you. It really is a wonderful hope, but we cannot ignore Psalms 37 and Mat 5:5. The words are included as part of the inspire word that includes also the heavenly hope.
Although heavenly life as a hope is given in the Greek Scriptures, let's reason on Lazarus and his resurrection. If the resurrection happens "in the twinkling of an eye" then that would have placed Lazarus in heaven as soon as he died. Why would Jesus bring him down to earth again? What was Jesus teaching by resurrecting him on Earth?
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very alone..
by flower ini know that people have been in the same boat as i am and have felt the same but i still feel very alone tonight.
and very depressed.
i dont think some people understand even here.
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HenryP
Flower, you can find comfort in Jehovah.
Meditate on these beautiful scriptures, found in Lamentations 3:20-30
20 I will never forget this awful time, as I grieve over my loss. 21 Yet I still dare to hope when I remember this:
22 The unfailing love of the LORD never ends! By his mercies we have been kept from complete destruction.
23 Great is his faithfulness; his mercies begin afresh each day.
24 I say to myself, "The LORD is my inheritance; therefore, I will hope in him!"
25 The LORD is wonderfully good to those who wait for him and seek him.
26 So it is good to wait quietly for salvation from the LORD.
27 And it is good for the young to submit to the yoke of his discipline.
28 Let them sit alone in silence beneath the LORD's demands.
29 Let them lie face down in the dust; then at last there is hope for them.
30 Let them turn the other cheek to those who strike them. Let them accept the insults of their enemies. -
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HELP! Does anyone remember this guy?
by DanielHaase inthe recent post on how we felt about apostates when we were dubs made me remember something, which i touched on in the post.
when i was 11 my entire damn family visited bethel in brooklyn.
there was a grey-haired older fellow that stayed outside the facility yelling at the top of his lungs.
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HenryP
This is what I heard:
Mr. Coffee did get hit by a Watchtower Truck, but nothing serious happened to him. He did file a lawsuit and won $30,000. The Society paid up the sum in pennies. Mr. Coffee went back to court to file a complaint because of the pennies saying it wasn't real money, the judge kicked him out of the courtroom. Mr. Coffee passed away in the 90's.
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BEARDS letter from GB
by Shane inwatchtower.
bible and tract society of new york, inc.. writing department phone (718) 625-3600.
25 columbia heights, brooklyn, new york 11201-2483, u.sa.
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HenryP
You make some good points, still you did not address the scripture that I quoted. 1 Cor. 10:33 "I try to please everyone in everything I do. I don't just do what I like or what is best for me, but what is best for them so they may be saved. "
Did Paul have a valid point also?
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How to find long lost friend...
by HenryP indoes anyone have any ideas on how to find a friend?
this is a childhood friend that i have not heard of for 12 years.
are there any free websites that can run a search on people (even if they do not have an email address)?
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HenryP
Does anyone have any ideas on how to find a friend? This is a childhood friend that I have not heard of for 12 years. Are there any free websites that can run a search on people (even if they do not have an email address)?
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Part 10: The Last CO Visit & Demise of Elder A
by Amazing inpart 10: the last co visit & demise of elder a. .
the phone rings its elder a: brother amazing, the co is visiting, and will be out on shepherding calls.
when we left the room, elder a walked up and asked what our meeting was about.
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HenryP
Elder A certainly had a big problem and should have been removed. If you were the only one that spoke up against him, then maybe he could have received another chance, but it seems like many had complained.
The CO and PO seemed to be very loving and fair men. Were you happy with the way they handled the matter? If so, did you think of disposing of your leaving ideas, or continued on with the plan?