Thanks for all the responses and helpful info. The one woman was very intelligent and knowledgeable. I would say she is probably one of their best and brightest. I believe she was anticipating how i would react to certain things, and adjusted the 'truth' accordingly. Maybe even getting a little worn down, and didn't want to face any more of those things head-on.
AuntBee
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A few questions for all you experts from my long JW meeting yesterday
by AuntBee inhere are a few things that were said that seemed kind of dubious to me.
(i had a meeting with 2 women that came to the door - full story in the thread "i received the knock...").
they baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.
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A few questions for all you experts from my long JW meeting yesterday
by AuntBee inhere are a few things that were said that seemed kind of dubious to me.
(i had a meeting with 2 women that came to the door - full story in the thread "i received the knock...").
they baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.
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Here are a few things that were said that seemed kind of dubious to me. (I had a meeting with 2 women that came to the door - full story in the thread "I received the knock...")
They baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy SPirit. THey don't discourage college. The GB (FDS) is really not that big of a deal in dictating their lives, so why do i keep pressing that point? The 'door to door' hours are really not that big of a pressure or legalistic deal - after all, some are sick in bed and can't do it at all! -- THe Society encourages people to study the BIble on their own without publications or FDS guidance , people CAN come to the Truth just by reading the Bible on their own without the FDS.
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A Mother's Story of loss of her son..............
by Balsam insome names have been changed or removed to protect those in the family who would not want their names known, or are still active jw's.
ruth .
a mothers regret for a religious devotion.
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My heart goes out to you, and it made me start crying this morning, as my own oldest daughter died suddenly in her sleep at 25 years old, in APril, cause unknown. :(
I just spoke with a JW woman this morning for 70 minutes, and i did bring up the blood issue. SHe does not know who i am, and doesn't have any idea how well i know her sons, who are teenagers, which is another story. I just adore the 2 boys, and hearing her say right to my face that she'd let them die rather than take a transfusion, i almost started crying right then and there. It was quite chilling, even more so after having just read your story this morning.
Thanks for sharing all that; i hope you can help save many others.
auntbee
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Scriptures the Gibbering Body Wished Were Never Written...
by Darklighter ini posted this over at http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/8646/master/1/ too... (that's a good site for all you who are looking for a replacement to jwd).
i was doing some research last night, and found out that luke 21:8 has only been specifically commented on once in the last 40 years in the watchtower!
see if you can guess why... .
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Romans 4:4-8 -- Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. However, to the man who does NOT WORK but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness. David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from woks: 'Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him" NIV
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Twilight by Stephenie Meyer...has anyone read it?
by White Dove inanyone?
anyone?
bueller...bueller...fry...
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AuntBee
I haven't read it, but my 19-year old daughter just got it, and can't put it down. :)
aunt bee
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Should Smoking Be a Mortal Sin?
by skeeter1 injdubs hang their hat on the fact that the wts was right about not smoking.
(the jdubs forget that the wts did not get it right on vaccinations or organ transplants...but that's for another post).
granted, saying "no" to smoke was a good, healthy decision.
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I actually heard someone talking about this the other day. Do a Bible concordance search on the word "smoking". Then do a word search for "unicorn." The Bible talks about unicorns much more than it talks about smoking. LOL
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Date tonight
by B_Deserter inwell, i have a date tonight.
predictably, i'm pretty nervous.
does anyone have advice as far as what are good conversation ice breakers and subjects that work well for date talk.
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I have several daughters post high school age, and often listen to their gripes about guys! LOL. I totally concur with the previous posts on LISTENING. Listening actively, with interest, and ask questions to learn more. Ask about favorite books, movies, etc. What it was like growing up in her family. What she likes to do in her free time. Hopefully in some of that, you can find a common hobby/interest, and run with it. A little humor is great. --- People can tell when someone is just listening with glazed over eyes, and can't wait to get back to the most important topic - themselves! :) GOOD LUCK.
aunt bee
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Will the WTBTS ever become mainstream like the WWCG?
by donny inback during the 80's and 90's, i occasionally heard statements lumping the society in with the likes of the worldwide church of god who had very similar teachings and even believed in 1975 as being a year that god would act (1975 in prophecy!
by herbert w. armstrong).
clearly the roots of the wwcg were from the same as the societys and both groups were viewed as cults.
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AuntBee
There is a video about this topic concerning the WWCG at this web site: www.lhvm.org/wcg.htm. (I hope that works. If it doesn't, the name of the organization is LIving Hope Ministries.) This video is very interesting; it's an amazing story.
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SCANNED ARTICLE ON BLOOD FRACTIONS 'WORKBOOK'
by Mary ini'm not sure if this has ever been posted, but here's the uh "workbook" that all jws are given regarding blood fractions.
of course, the hypocrisy shines through as when it asks "are fractions also covered by the command to abstain from blood?
we cannot say" and "your decisions should be your own and should not be based on someone else's conscience.
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This is one of the strangest things I have ever seen in print, and I read a lot. It reminds me of Jesus' comment to the Pharisees:
"You blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel." -- Matthew 23:24.
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Critical Reading
by megs inone of the most important things i learned in university was critical reading... when you read something, look at who's writing it, are they credible, do they have a known bias?
if they are quoting, is the quote taken in context?
the wts seem to be masters at trying to curtail critical thinking because then their bias, credibility and context would be shot.!
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Speaking of critical reading, i just finished reading You Can LIve FOrever on Paradise Earth as a complete outsider. (the library had it...) Just for fun, I spent some time looking up the verses. It was so tedious and time-consuming, it made me wonder how many people actually look up all those verses to check out what is being said. It would take even more time to read not only the verse, but the chapter it's found in or at least the paragraph, with an awareness of the total context of that whole BOOK of Scripture. I found some verses that I thought just had to be type-o's, because i could not fathom any connection whatsoever. Some were obviously taken out of context, and some actually seemed to mean the exact opposite of what the book was trying o assert.
Does the WTBTS put out any books or articles on a more scholarly level? IF one is even remotely aware of church history, and the scholarly volumes on Biblical theology that have been written over the centuries by the likes of the early fathers, Augustine, the reformers, etc, the debunking of orthodoxy in a few pages just seems so superficial.