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  Unique vernacular and nomenclature of Jw's.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  both robert lifton and steve hassan list the use of 'loaded language' as a key element of cults.

  every cult has terminologies that are unique to itself, and often the intent is to polarize the membership into a black and white language style.

  the cliches of cultish groups tend to stop thought, or restrict into a a single accepted viewpoint.. this is almost never recognized by the members while they are trapped inside - but is clearly evident the effects this had upon us once we exit the religion.

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  AK-Jeff: Your post was "loaded" with insight! amazing. I'm a never been JW, but in transcribing parts of the convention for a few people, and for my own study, WOW, i kept noticing this over and over. I was already pretty familiar with some of the more 'loaded", "negative" terms and what they imply, etc. But there are also a lot of words/phrases that are.........strange, or archaic, etc. One of the words that intrigue me is the constant use of "imperfection" as opposed to "sin." My theory on this is that even in the midst of the heavy guilt and legalism, the WTBS view of sin is actually shallow and insufficient, as compared with traditional Christian views. I believe this ties in with their unique ransom theory, for various reasons.

  Maybe i'll pm you later some more of the strange wordings i noticed, if you are interested in this topic.
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  Hello id like to intruduce myself

  by Belly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive been lurking this site for quite a while but for some reason never could muster up the courage to post.. let me give a little background on my self.. i am 18 and male an still living with my parents.

  i was baptised at 15 basically against my will (by cracking under the pressure) but only truly broke out of the drone like mindswhen i was 17. since then its been totall choas in my life all of it stemming from the orginization of course.

  my parents are the defenition of brainwashed wittnesses, my father even belives he is anointed.. after i got baptised i suffered from intense deppression and with a little soul searching, after a year i realized that i need some time for my self.

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  Comment on FAFSA: WE've gone through the FAFSA process recently with several kids. One thing that did surprise me is that it is only for VERY rare circumstances that they will process your application without the parental information. I believe it's until you are age 23, or around there. For example, they are in jail, you have no contact whatsoever, etc. -- This can be very detrimental to some of the college-age students who need it the most! One gal i knew - her parents just refused to give the info. She had no idea why, and they would not help her financially with college either! (i wondered if they were into conspiracy theories, and didn't want the gov to have their info? Or involved in something shady?)

  I wonder if it would be worth researching more in depth, and producing some kind of paper or article, explaining why students leaving Jehovahs Witnesses NEED and DESERVE Fafsa help, without their parents' info.
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  Modern Day Cult Leader - The End in 2011!!

  by AuntBee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this might interest some who are researchers into cults in general.

  i had only vaguely heard of this guy harold camping, when he predicted the end in the nineties.

  here at this link, you can hear him debating dr james white.

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  This might interest some who are researchers into cults in general. I had only vaguely heard of this guy Harold Camping, when he predicted the end in the nineties. Here at this link, you can hear him debating Dr James White. ( He is coming from a Reformed Prot perspective.) Part 1 is up, i believe they will also post part 2 soon.

  www.aomin.org

  It is unbelievable how JW-esque he sounds. He just rambles on and on with numbers, calculations, etc. Tells everyone to come out of their churches, he has the truth, it's being revealed for the first time now that the end is near, yada yada, you know the drill. -- His opponent actually observes how Camping for all practical purposes puts him on 'mute' when he speaks, not really responding to anything he says, but just goes back into his spiel.

  i know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but i thought some might be interested.
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  Share Your Blessings: What Has God Done for You?

  by leavingwt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "count your many blessings, name them one by one.

  " (words of the song).

  i'm interested in hearing from believers.

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  I once told a JW pioneer that when i lay my head down at night, i do not look back on the day and think how much i did for Jehovah. I don't assume that it's all good with Him because He knows i have a good heart. I realize the sins i have committed, the people i still lack love for after many years, the grudges i find hard to let go of, the impatience, the lack of compassion, the things i should have done but didn't..........And with all this and more, i thank God for the amazing gratuitous GIFT of the forgiveness of sins through the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the joy of being clothed with the robe of Christ's righteousness. :) This is good news indeed, is it not?

  Sola Gratia!

  auntbee, bridget, tucson
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  Free Steven Hassan Book!

  by AuntBee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just found a very cheap but nice copy of hassan's book "combatting mind control".

  i will mail it gratis to whoever wants it.

  first pmed address i get!

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  AuntBee

  WE HAVE A WINNER: lurk3r.
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  Free Steven Hassan Book!

  by AuntBee in

  1. jw
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  i just found a very cheap but nice copy of hassan's book "combatting mind control".

  i will mail it gratis to whoever wants it.

  first pmed address i get!

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  I just found a very cheap but nice copy of Hassan's book "Combatting Mind Control". I will mail it gratis to whoever wants it. First PMed address i get! LOL.
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  Major anti-cult campaign in autumn? Post here if interested

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so we already have this thread which has separate actions for next month: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/179142/2/make-august-2009-the-dawn-of-the-mass-exodus-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-watchtower-org.

  i don't intend to discourage anyone from participating in that.

  those actions are meant to educate current jws (help people leave).

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  Gayle - what are you sending to KH's? Do you think the person assigned to open the mail is usually alone?
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  Those BOLD Apostates!!!

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from an email i got.. .

  apostates at it again.

  i went for prep meeting for the da.

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  I attended for 2 days. Brought all kinds of material with me - web sites, blood info, etc. Put stuff in Bathrooms, kingdom melody books, bibles, cars, etc!! There were NO attendants in the bathrooms until the end of Saturday. By then, they had 2 in each one, and they were periodically combing every inch of the stalls, etc. I guess they realized they should be "keeping on the watch" in there.

  Thank the JW woman who came to my house, who smilingly and unhesitatingly told me she would let her sons die if they needed blood. (i knew her sons well, which she did not know) She REALLY got me riled up!
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  Those BOLD Apostates!!!

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
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  from an email i got.. .

  apostates at it again.

  i went for prep meeting for the da.

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  Some of these aren't even exJWs, but i will say no more......
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  Healthy Boundaries

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  healthy boundaries.

  you can say no or yes, and you are ok when others say no to you.. you have a strong sense of identity.

  you respect yourself.. you expect reciprocity in a relationshipyou share responsibility and power.. you know when the problem is yours and when it belongs to someone else.. you share personal information gradually in a mutually sharing/trusting relationship.. you dont tolerate abuse or disrespect.. you know your own wants, needs and feelings.

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  Hi rebel8 -- WOW, thanks! That is an awesome compilation of the "boundaries" concept! I"ve got teenage and grown daughters I will pass this on to, and some friends. I know there are a few good books on the topic, but this list is VERY useful. Great stuff for anyone, exJW or not. thanks.