Posts by AuntBee

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THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS!!!!!.....

by Nick! in

jw
friends

hi xxxx,.

to tell you the truth, i feel very deceived from the way the organization has been acting in the last years.. .

----- original message ----- from: xxxxxsent: wednesday, august 18, 2010 1:04 amsubject: fw: there are no words to describe this!!!!!......

AuntBee

Debator: You admit they are imperfect men? Here are a few WT quotes:

“You may wisely decide against putting your trust in imperfect men and their fallible predictions and promises.” 3/15/66

“Build your hope on Scriptural truth, not on the imaginations of imperfect men.” 1/1/68

“ Can you imagine the potential for abuse if Jesus’ power were placed in the hands of an imperfect ruler? But Jesus was sinless. (1 Peter 2:22) He refused to be tainted by the selfishness, ambition, and greed that drive imperfect men to use their power to hurt others.” (Close to Jehovah, p.93)

“Do not despair, neither trust in imperfect men, who come to disappointment, but look to the secure and certain Fountainhead of all government and the Source of life.” (referring to God) 11/1/66

“According to First Timothy 6:20 it would be unwise to fill one’s mind with philosophies of imperfect men” (9/1/1975)

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An active Witness proudly tells me about Shunning her kids back into the 'truth"

by AuntBee in

"as he is a god of love.. these things serve to protect individuals aswell as the congregations.

as a parent i fully understand the concept of wanting my children to choose their friends wisely, to be careful about literature they read & so on & would i cast them out for being wayward?

yes, i have, & they learnt their lesson & were welcomed back with immediacy the minute they made the necessary changes.

AuntBee

Unshackled: Your sister would probably identify with this gal, whose also 17, in case you haven't seen this already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGqbBHvIoTc

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An active Witness proudly tells me about Shunning her kids back into the 'truth"

by AuntBee in

"as he is a god of love.. these things serve to protect individuals aswell as the congregations.

as a parent i fully understand the concept of wanting my children to choose their friends wisely, to be careful about literature they read & so on & would i cast them out for being wayward?

yes, i have, & they learnt their lesson & were welcomed back with immediacy the minute they made the necessary changes.

AuntBee

Unshackled: That is all SO sad. Is it legal to 'kick out' a 17-year old? Couldn't one get in trouble for child neglect/endangerment, since they're under 18?

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An active Witness proudly tells me about Shunning her kids back into the 'truth"

by AuntBee in

"as he is a god of love.. these things serve to protect individuals aswell as the congregations.

as a parent i fully understand the concept of wanting my children to choose their friends wisely, to be careful about literature they read & so on & would i cast them out for being wayward?

yes, i have, & they learnt their lesson & were welcomed back with immediacy the minute they made the necessary changes.

AuntBee

"As He is a God of love.. these things serve to protect individuals aswell as the congregations. As a parent i fully understand the concept of wanting my children to choose their friends wisely, to be careful about literature they read & so on & would i cast them out for being wayward? yes, i have, & they learnt their lesson & were welcomed back with immediacy the minute they made the necessary changes. We were all hurt at that time & deeply affected & yet we all healed from it... because we followed God's prescribed course!!!

so there's wisdom in what God has decreed. All is for our benefit... !!"

It's one thing to read about the harsh shunning, and then another to hear directly from someone how they put this into practice. Having read so many stories on here, and knowing a few people who have experienced it, in real life, this just churns my stomach. just....wow.

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The WT ADMITS to using mind control!!!

by brotherdan in

march 1, 1983 wt page 25 - consider some of the other twisted things used to mislead gods people today.

on occasion opposers will question the various teachings that jehovahs people hold in common.

often this becomes a debate about words, just as it was in the first century.

AuntBee

They should direct your mind, and influence your every decision. But if you try to call them out on anything, the GB, past presidents, and WT writers are just....imperfect men!

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Divine Name

by brotherdan in

i know this has been a often discussed topic.

but i just can't understand the wt's take on this.

they freely admit that we do not know how god's name was pronounced.

AuntBee

The JWs like to claim they are a restoration of the eary church. So to one, i mentioned that the early church did emphasize the divine name. In the NT, the description of the earliest church is in the book of Acts. So, you can see how they emphasized the divine name by looking up all references to the word "name." :) Easy way to find out whose name they emphasized and preached. The person said they knew the truth, and didn't need to do that. -- (Hey i did not see Brother Dan's last post before i wrote this. LOL)

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How Did You Finally "Get Out Of Her" (JWs)??

by minimus in

jw
friends

what situation(s) got you out of the organization, either mentally or physically or both?

what was your "last straw"?.

AuntBee

Brotherdan - Can you elaborate on number 2? Do you mean dishonesty about what had been previously taught/written? About their own history? Other things? Thanks.

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To new Christians on JWN

by brotherdan in

i wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.

this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.

you are going to hear from a wide range of people that have moved on to a diverse range of beliefs.

AuntBee

I know there are quite a few Christians (never JWs) who check in here, for the infomation. It is always so up to date, and informative for those who want to dialogue with JWs, and know some in their real life. It helps us understand beyond just the beliefs, but into the mindset, life issues that they may be going through, etc.

I personally try to be sensitive to the whole purpose of the forum ,for exJW to support each other. Sometimes it feels like i'm listening in on someone's conversation, and don't want to butt in! :)

The "tone" was much more friendly to all beliefs when i first started reading the forum about 2 years ago. Sometimes people would kind of chide someone in a friendly way about faith in Christ. But at some point, i think the tone changed, and became a bit more harsh.

I like Terry! We share the same concerns about porn and its effects. hehe.

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Is "The Truth" Killing You, Lurkers?

by metatron in

jw
friends

as an elder of many years, i was continually struck with the abundance of chronically ill witnesses whose disease appeared to be related to their own stress at trying to meet the endless demands of the "truth".

i am not a medical professional but i don't need to be a doctor to know that the depression and virtual self loathing ('i'm not good enough, i must do more, i'm a bad parent....") sets a stage for ill health.. and now science backs up that conclusion:.

http://www.amazon.com/when-body-says-understanding-stress-disease/dp/0471219827.

AuntBee

There is a JW family i have known for years. The son was allowed to be somewhat active with peers during high school - he even did a sport. He is smart, talented, etc. He started college, went for 2 years, and now he is sick with some mysterious ailment, quit college, and almost never leaves the house. He even had a surgery for this ailment, which did not help. Those of us who have known him for years believe he is definitely having anxiety over JW related issues. Older sibling (at least 22) seems nowhere near moving out yet either.

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Theocratic Warfare / Lying JWs

by AuntBee in

it's one thing to read about this on paper.

but it really hits home after you've experienced it numerous times!

this is a real thing, and it's quite startling to find such an abundance of lying in 'the truth'!!

AuntBee

Yes, i see what you're saying sir82. I'm sure that is the case many times. It's almost like they're saying - NO, that just can't be, or doesn't sound right, rather than a definitive NO, we DO NOT teach that. There have been a few, though, where i knew they knew.