"with everything that is going on in this world it really is wonderful to be spiritually awake!
the world is groping for answers to solve their problems.
jehovah is revealing to us what is about to happen.
"With everything that is going on in this world it really is wonderful to be spiritually awake! The world is groping for answers to solve their problems. Jehovah is revealing to us what is about to happen. So lift your heads up because your deliverance is near!!"
So, Jehovah is revealing to us (through the WT? Through the Slave?) what is GOING TO HAPPEN? But, i thought they never claim to be prophets or inspired? Obviously their members are being given a different take on it.
i've been watching the web site that shows how many more tickets need to be sold for this to happen.
right now, it is 14. if anyone wants to buy one as kind of a donation, even though you're not going, you can at this web site: .
http://www.tugg.com/events/5361.
I've been watching the web site that shows how many more tickets need to be sold for this to happen. Right now, it is 14. If anyone wants to buy one as kind of a donation, even though you're not going, you can at this web site:
http://www.tugg.com/events/5361
The tickets cost twelve dollars. If it ends up not happening, your credit card isn' charged for it.
Thanks,
auntbee from tucson
has anyone here approached the jw's at the carts and what has come of it?
did u say ur ex-jw or did u try to poke holes in the doctrines?
were u able to embarrass them in front of any bystanders with issues such as child abuse cover-up, false prophecy, etc?
Hi Hillary - We have JWs outside at literature tables here in Tucson. I sent you a PM about it!
yes, rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die.
" well it's been 95 years since.
how many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today?
That's a really good point, Jookbeard! I just realized that recently, having thought of it as more similar to the 1914 thing, thinking, ok , how long would that be past 1925, if millions would still be alive, etc.
ALl that 1925/BethSarim predictions/speculation is the backdrop to Rutherford's "light flashing up" to reveal the great crowd in the 30's! Essentially, a whole new religious system apart from the New Covenant. As the old saying goes "Consider the source." Was that guy a reliable and trustworthy interpreter of Scripture? ? Or...if it was light "from Jehovah", special revelation, what was his track record with that? Wow, what was that guy smoking (drinking?)???
It's just as though Hal Lindsey or Harold Camping would come up with a MAJOR new interpretation never before heard of, after their failed predictions/speculations, and say this is light from Jehovah, and you have to listen to it!
i was raised as a jw from the age of 7. i was df'd for apostasy in 1971 at the age of 23. it has been 42 years since i have had contact with any jehovah's witnesses, including my family.
last year i moved to tucson.
when i read that a district assembly was coming to town, and that it would be at the convention center only minutes from my house, i decided to check it out.
I just wanted to throw in my two cents on theron ware, as he seems pretty modest and unassuming. Theron has had a brilliant career in two different fields, and has more than one published work-related book. I was beyond impressed that he achieved all of this with no family/parent support whatsoever, the trauma of shunning, etc. Not only that, he's a good conversationalist who doesn't talk down to an average Joe(sephine) like me! A really great guy, it made my day to meet him.
it seems kind of crazy to go to someone's house touting your religion as truth and then not even defend your own beliefs.
why do jws stop the chat if someone just tries to calmly reason/debate with them?
i'm not talking about crazy preachers who start slamming bibles and yelling about how they need jesus or something.
As a "householder' whose been visited many times over the years, i think their willingness to have long discussions is not what it used to be, say, ten years ago. I don't know, maybe it's just true in my neck of the woods...who knows. My all time favorite was the woman who was almost cursing and literally shaking the dust off her feet as she left, after i had recited a generous sampling of WT false predictions. -- A year ago i asked a couple at the door if they could call me, because it was an inconvenient time, and i would like to discuss with them the 144,000 doctrine, but they never got back to me.
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Terry - you should get a webcast - 5 minutes a day - "Daily Reflections by Terry" (for any faith or non-faith) read with soft music playing in the background.
i dont' use my cell phone when with friends, to show them how important they are to me, and i am focusing on them, etc.
i turn it off completely.. i'm doing a free bible study with 2 really nice jw ladies.
but today, one of their phones went off loudly twice, and she had to check each time who it was etc.
I guess everyone has their own take on cell phones!
Thanks for the link, AnnOMaly, LOL!
Yes, it sure was helpful in that situation, Quarterback.
I'm pretty easy going and wasn't really taking it personally, i just made the observation, because i've spoken to JWs for years (usually by their initiative ) , and i think they are changing. I think there is noticeably less zeal and relish for defending their doctrines, than there used to be. At least from an outsider's perspective.
i dont' use my cell phone when with friends, to show them how important they are to me, and i am focusing on them, etc.
i turn it off completely.. i'm doing a free bible study with 2 really nice jw ladies.
but today, one of their phones went off loudly twice, and she had to check each time who it was etc.
I like free stuff...
i dont' use my cell phone when with friends, to show them how important they are to me, and i am focusing on them, etc.
i turn it off completely.. i'm doing a free bible study with 2 really nice jw ladies.
but today, one of their phones went off loudly twice, and she had to check each time who it was etc.
I dont' use my cell phone when with friends, to show them how important they are to me, and i am focusing on them, etc. I turn it off completely.
I'm doing a free Bible study with 2 really nice JW ladies. But today, one of their phones went off loudly twice, and she had to check each time who it was etc. The other one's phone went off once, and she had to take it and talk for a while.
I was kind of surprised by that!
PS don't worry, i'm not trying to join the WT...
