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  elders wont pray for someone?

  by AuntBee in

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  a former member said that elders told a relative of his after she was dfed that they would not be praying for her.

  is that some kind of policy, or were they just doing their own thing in that instance?

  taot.

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  Thanks Blondie. wow...
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  elders wont pray for someone?

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a former member said that elders told a relative of his after she was dfed that they would not be praying for her.

  is that some kind of policy, or were they just doing their own thing in that instance?

  taot.

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  A former member said that elders told a relative of his after she was DFed that they would not be praying for her. is that some kind of policy, or were they just doing their own thing in that instance? 😲

  taot
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  Paul’s teaching of all sins being forgiven for the gentiles and the JWs?

  by Crazyguy2 in

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  paul teaches through many of his writings using terms like justification, redemption, atonement etc.

  that gentiles are not only forgiven of sin both past and present but even their conscience is clean of such actions.

  how do the jw teachings get around all these scriptures and pauline books in the bible that clearly teach this???

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  great comment Sea Breeze! So true! JWs seem only familiar with "covenant for a kingdom" and not the one you pointed out in Matthew 26 re the forgiveness of sins.
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  1919 question

  by AuntBee in

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  when did the organization first start claiming that jesus chose them in 1919?

  does anyone know?

  -- thanks ahead of time.

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  When did the organization first start claiming that Jesus chose them in 1919? Does anyone know? It wasn't in 1919, was it? -- Thanks ahead of time.
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  Orphan Crow, that's awesome. Powerful, and probably a new thought to them and unexpected!
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  Thank you for all the comments! -- I like this topic when trying to plant seeds with JWs, as i have opportunity.

  Sometimes i am unsure whether it's best to use questions that are more along the line of "disturbed outsider" who heard about the latest blood death, and just make obvious points, that would come from thinking about the topic Scripturally or logically. Or whether to have more facts on hand to refute what their standard replies are going to be. I don't want to seem like a "professional opposer"; sometimes that can backfire, and they'll write you off more quickly, than just a simple point or question from an outsider.
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  Smiddy - yes! That is an excellent article, i'm glad it's posted on line!

  Frognomore - Again, thanks for your valuable inisight/facts.

  Giordano! wow, so that's where that crazy statement about comparing it to alcohol in veins! Yet another WT deceiving misquote. It's amazing how many of them still repeat that tired old argument!
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  Frognomore - Thank you for sharing your professional based knowledge and experience. Truly astounding and eye opening.

  Bondie - thanks for that additional info, i will follow up and check into that!

  OrphanCrow - Thanks for posting that additional thread.

  Steve2 - Great point about emergency situations from accidents! I imagine the same is true with emergency situations in childbirth
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  wow Orphan Crow...very interesting. I did notice one of the web sites of these places i looked at, had a heart warming JW testimony on the front page.
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  Thanks for the great insights, links and info - Orphan, Finkelstein, Giordano.

  I was curious to phone one of these Bloodless medicine hospitals, to ask if they would affirm that there ARE cases where a person needs actual blood, and ... i'm not kidding ,the receptionist that answered - to me, totally seemed like a JW, seemed to take personal umbrage to my question, expressed discomfort and annoyance, etc.