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WT 15th April apostates / new light on miscarriages

by dozy in

study articles have strong counsel against apostates - modern day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the devil.

their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude towards individuals in the congregations , christian elders or the governing body.

some apostates oppose the use of the divine name , jehovah.

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Anyone got a scan of this WT?

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Sir David Attenborough gets hate mail from viewers...who believe in Creation

by Latte in

attenborough gets hate mail from viewerstue jan 27 11:54am by tv editor.

recent articlesdancing on ice's ray 'marked down' by judgesproducers wanted clunes for doctor whoabsolutely fabulous idea or absolutely not?yahoo!

users back verne to winitv slashes the billsir david attenborough has revealed that he gets hate mail from viewers for not crediting god in his documentaries.. the veteran broadcaster, who is presenting a new series on charles darwin, said that he has received letters telling him to burn in hell because of his views on evolution.. he told radio times that he is often asked why he does not credit god when talking about some of the creatures featured on his shows: "they always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds.

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I should also say on the topic of Attenborough getting hate mail, "boo hoo".

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Sir David Attenborough gets hate mail from viewers...who believe in Creation

by Latte in

attenborough gets hate mail from viewerstue jan 27 11:54am by tv editor.

recent articlesdancing on ice's ray 'marked down' by judgesproducers wanted clunes for doctor whoabsolutely fabulous idea or absolutely not?yahoo!

users back verne to winitv slashes the billsir david attenborough has revealed that he gets hate mail from viewers for not crediting god in his documentaries.. the veteran broadcaster, who is presenting a new series on charles darwin, said that he has received letters telling him to burn in hell because of his views on evolution.. he told radio times that he is often asked why he does not credit god when talking about some of the creatures featured on his shows: "they always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds.

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It's so easy to reduce humanity on earth to mere chance, one element of humanity having more power or will to survive over another. By thus doing you actually de-humanise and make it easier to excuse the death of 'lesser' humans.

My friend ninja, while a cider drinking Glaswegian, makes a very good point.

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What steps did you take to stop your association with the congregation?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

when i finally knew that the wts didn't have the truth,i decided to take steps to slow down and become an inactive member.

( i still have my whole family in.......so..... i prefer to remain inactive).

i took these small steps :.

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Studied the 1914 doctrine, saw conclusively that it was absolutely bogus, had a mild panic attack realising that I'd been duped by a cult my entire life, resigned as an elder, stopped going to meetings immediately, disassociated 'by my actions' a couple of months later.

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Fw: How Close Is It ???

by moomanchu in

jw
friends

all i asked them was "so do you think it's coming?

" waiting for their reply to tell them "at an hour that you do not think it to be, the son of man is coming.." what's funny is the underline and red font color is theirs.. ---------- forwarded message ----------.

someone is keeping on the watch.

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Luke 21:8 - He said: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them.

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Fw: How Close Is It ???

by moomanchu in

jw
friends

all i asked them was "so do you think it's coming?

" waiting for their reply to tell them "at an hour that you do not think it to be, the son of man is coming.." what's funny is the underline and red font color is theirs.. ---------- forwarded message ----------.

someone is keeping on the watch.

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I don't have the willpower to read all of that crap, but since when does the JW 'last days' teaching include forest fires, floods and financial difficulties? These people are interminably annoying. Live your life and stop reading into the news.

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How can it be? It's so cruel...

by Newborn in

jw
friends

...that my only sister shuns me????.

sorry but i feel so miserable and i miss her enormously:-(.

it hurts when i write her (e-mail, letters, sms) but she doesn't reply.

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Sorry to hear that's what's happening to you. The mind boggles that Jehovah's Witnesses believe that God wishes to inflict pain and anguish through this cold-hearted punishment.

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Trust in Jehovah in these hard economic times--but send us money

by Bonnie_Clyde in

clyde has heard from two sources that a letter was read at the meeting last week.

after encouragement to trust in jehovah, they suggested that each publisher send about $5.70 to the society each month to help support the organization.

that's the way he heard it.

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Seriously thought, has anyone confirmed whether this letter is actually being read out?

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What are your weekends like now?

by passwordprotected in

jw
friends

compare and contrast.. my weekends as a jw;.

saturday.

stressing to get the kids ready in time to get out to meet the fs group.

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Compare and Contrast.

My weekends as a JW;

Saturday. Stressing to get the kids ready in time to get out to meet the FS group. Feel a bit guilty for not preparing a 'magazine presentation'. Get an hour's time in, maybe speak to 2 or 3 'householders'. Perhaps 'place' a couple of magazines. Feel a bit guilty for leaving the FS almost exactly on the hour mark, but it has to be done as the kids are getting raucous/bored/cranky/tired.

Return home to a messy kitchen (messy due to the rushed exit to meet the FS group on time). Feel a bit jaded while eating lunch. Kids have too much energy so are bouncing off the walls. Get irritable with the kids. Feel guilty at getting irritable with the kids. By 2pm feel like going back to bed. The afternoon drifts by in a reverie of arguing kids and bored parents. Can't be bothered doing anything. Perhaps take the dog a walk. Or not. Feel guilty for not taking the dog a walk. Evening comes and brings a takeaway meal, a couple of beers and some mindless but fun TV. Kids go to bed. Feel guilty for not doing more with them during the day. Wife 'studies' her Watchtower. Feel guilty for not doing the same. Watch 'Match of the Day' then bed.

Sunday. Up early to get Watchtower 'studied'. Feel guilty for not putting more into it, but feel unsatisfied with the magazine's content. Stressing to get the kids ready, to pack a lunch and get to the meeting 20 minutes before it starts as per all 'appointed men' families. Feel irritated on the drive to the KH, can't figure out why so blame oneself; where is my gratitude for the meetings? Sit through the meeting feeling tired. Don't feel any great connection with the study material in the Watchtower. That must be my fault for not spending more time pre-studying it. After meeting feel stressed by having to keep excitable son under control. Feel guilty as he just wants to have fun with his friends. Feel irritated by self-righteous attitude of some of the parents whose kids behave like angels. Eat packed lunch then out in ministry. Feel very tired. Feel a bit guilty for leaving the FS almost exactly on the hour mark, but it has to be done as the kids are getting raucous/bored/cranky/tired.

Return home to a messy house due to rushing out the door to get to the meeting 20 minutes before start time. Handle 'appointed man' business (usually relating to congregation assignment) while the kids fight and argue. Feel guilty for not doing much with them but make the excuses; tiredness, busyness etc. Highlight of the weekend; 5-a-side football with the brothers, although some of the passive-aggression on display causes a bit of stress. Return home with a sinking feeling that another weekend is over and it's back to work on Monday.

My weekends as a non-JW;

Saturday. Up early but there's no rush or stress. Wife and daughter lie in. Get son up and ready for football training. Take him to football training at around the same time we would have been meeting the FS group. Feel good about his joy at playing football on Saturday mornings, learning skills making friends. Wash car. Pick son up from football training, listen to his little stories about goals scored and tackles made on the drive home. Stop off to buy rolls and bacon. Return home to a tidy kitchen, wife and daughter up and dress and relaxed. Wife makes lunch. Read the paper, surf the net, chat in the kitchen. Kids argue about television or toys. Plan what to do in the afternoon. Head out for a while with the kids, either taking them and a friend somewhere fun or dropping them off at their friend's (another ex-JW family). Have enough energy to want to do something interesting and fun with the kids. If kid-free, go to a nice coffee shop with wife for a mocha and a chat. Feel relaxed and at ease within oneself.

Relax in front of Saturday night TV with the kids. Pack kids off to bed. Savour a feeling of refreshment, feel secure, feel at ease. Watch 'Match of the Day' then bed.

Sunday. Get up whenever we want. Easy breakfast, no rush, no stress. Take the dog a very long walk, meditate. Think about life. Talk to God. Return home, shower and change into 'smart-casual' attire and head to church for the 12pm service. Service lasts 1 hour. Lots of worship songs. Prayer. Bible reading. Sermon. Take notes during the sermon, solidly based on the Bible. Songs. Prayer. Feel great. Feel connected. Feel at ease. Chat with some of the congregation. No pressure to be a certain way. Just be.

Invite ex-JW friends back for lunch/Go to theirs for lunch/Go out somewhere nice for lunch/Go to new friend from church's home for lunch. Kids play with other kids. Chat. Relax. Return home. Feel energised. Feel spiritual. Feel connected. Go to 6pm service at church without wife and kids. Sing songs. Listen to Bible-based sermon, take notes. Take communion. Chat with some in congregation. Go home. Read some of the Message Bible with son. Kids go to bed. Chat with wife until late. No football on Sunday nights now. Another weekend is over but feel refreshed and relaxed, ready for work on Monday.

What are your weekends like now?

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Jehovah's Witnesses and their Elders

by AllTimeJeff in

i wonder if the governing body (gb) knows the trouble the whole thing started..... to be sure, when the gb put into effect that all congregations of jehovah's witnesses were to have a body of elders that is in existence today, their goal was to meet their own ends.

under a sub heading "gearing up for explosive growth" in their history book "jehovah's witnesses - proclaimers of god's kingdom" they stated..... ***.

jehovahs servants were determined to continue to yield to divine direction.

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Thanks besty. I remember hearing about a congregation being disbanded back in the 90s, but at the time a lot of people poo-poo'd whether it had actually happened.

I remember saying to my mum a couple of months ago that you won't find a more judgmental group of people than a KH full of JWs. I think Perth Kinnoul proves that truism.