while i am new to this network, the evidence seems to be overwhelming that the wbts is in decline.
while many voice their pleasure at this prospect, it is in many ways sad for me:.
it is sad that so many have spent such a great quantity of their early lives supporting a cause that appears to have been a waste of time.
The far left might excuse a believer for being deluded but there's no good excuse for a coward who stays because they're afraid of being shunned by some jerk.
What Gary says here is probably massively unpopular with many on this forum. But I happen to agree wholehearted with him.
i know this article was brought up with respect to the statement it contains regarding the fact that religion should not divide a family.
i finally got to read it and i found something more interesting a few paragraphs earlier.
the article states:.
@ homeschool - deeeeeep breaths.
hi again.... i've been searching around for a few days now trying to understand whether or not there are spiritual folks out there who believe some of the fundamental tenents of the witness religion, but don't believe in all the rules that the gb puts forth... many of the folks that i talk to tell me that the only way to salvation is through acceptance of jesus as god.
i do accept jesus as the messiah, as a perfect man that god sent to atone for the sins of adam, but i don't believe he is god.... i believe there is one god, one son and one holy spirit and they are not three persons in one god... i feel weird whenever i go to another service that exalts the trinity, as well as some other basic rituals of their religion.... am i making sense?.
@ LeavingWT - Walter is great.
hi again.... i've been searching around for a few days now trying to understand whether or not there are spiritual folks out there who believe some of the fundamental tenents of the witness religion, but don't believe in all the rules that the gb puts forth... many of the folks that i talk to tell me that the only way to salvation is through acceptance of jesus as god.
i do accept jesus as the messiah, as a perfect man that god sent to atone for the sins of adam, but i don't believe he is god.... i believe there is one god, one son and one holy spirit and they are not three persons in one god... i feel weird whenever i go to another service that exalts the trinity, as well as some other basic rituals of their religion.... am i making sense?.
"PP - Sorry if I misread your meaning. One thing I have discovered as I have sampled various churches, is that the membership often has a wide variety of ideas and understandings of scripture and no one seems to get overwrought if someone holds a different one from the official doctrine of the church. I attended a Methodist church a few times shortly after leaving the wts and was shocked when they actually encouraged people to read the Bible and try to figure things out for themselves!"
I think if you can find a church that you're comfortable in and enjoy fellowship in, then just relax and have fun. I know one committed Christian (an ex-JW) who for the first 30 years after leaving the WTS didn't believe the Trinity. However, she wasn't excluded or shunned because of this.
hi again.... i've been searching around for a few days now trying to understand whether or not there are spiritual folks out there who believe some of the fundamental tenents of the witness religion, but don't believe in all the rules that the gb puts forth... many of the folks that i talk to tell me that the only way to salvation is through acceptance of jesus as god.
i do accept jesus as the messiah, as a perfect man that god sent to atone for the sins of adam, but i don't believe he is god.... i believe there is one god, one son and one holy spirit and they are not three persons in one god... i feel weird whenever i go to another service that exalts the trinity, as well as some other basic rituals of their religion.... am i making sense?.
"To reject it because they teach it is just as rigid and unbending as we all say they are IMHO."
I'm not saying to reject because they teach it, I was just wondering if you'd found yourself in that mindset due to their teachings. I hope you figure it out. I believe Jesus when he said he's send us the Spirit of Truth and that this Counsellor would teach us what we need to know and would testify about him. I'm pretty sure you'll find a place of comfort with your Saviour.
hi again.... i've been searching around for a few days now trying to understand whether or not there are spiritual folks out there who believe some of the fundamental tenents of the witness religion, but don't believe in all the rules that the gb puts forth... many of the folks that i talk to tell me that the only way to salvation is through acceptance of jesus as god.
i do accept jesus as the messiah, as a perfect man that god sent to atone for the sins of adam, but i don't believe he is god.... i believe there is one god, one son and one holy spirit and they are not three persons in one god... i feel weird whenever i go to another service that exalts the trinity, as well as some other basic rituals of their religion.... am i making sense?.
Hi. Have you considered that the reason you feel so uneasy with the teachings you mention is because the Governing Body has told you they are wrong?
i know this article was brought up with respect to the statement it contains regarding the fact that religion should not divide a family.
i finally got to read it and i found something more interesting a few paragraphs earlier.
the article states:.
Hi, IO, great to have you here. Good observation too.
well the wife's bs continues.....it seems they are somewhat leaping around right now, yesterday she was shown the 'amazing prophetic' explanation of 1914......she read the bible teach book account of it to me last night, did all i could to avoid wretching...... any ideas of simple questions i could ask to get her thinking, i know all the history of the 1914 stuff, originally pyramids, the wts being the only people to use 607 as the destruction date of the temple, but i do not want to come out with a lot of facts....i need her to think for herself......
Ask her why, as per Sunday's WT study, it wasn't until 1925 that the Witnesses understood the events of 1914. Weren't they supposed to have been proclaiming in advance what was going to happen?
new freeminds blog (with the ability to leave comments!)..
i examine how jehovah's witnesses are expected to prove their faith and what that shows about where their faith is actually placed.. i'd really appreciate your comments, either here or on the blog itself..
@ gladring, I hear you - thanks for the feedback.
There are some JWs out there who are uncomfortable with the prominence the Governing Body/FDS give themselves. However, they may not fully realise that their discomfort comes from what it actually published in the magazines and that what is published is completely unscriptural.
My articles are more for JWs who are already wrestling with their doubts and issues. You're right, it's almost impossible to reach a hard core JW.
new freeminds blog (with the ability to leave comments!)..
i examine how jehovah's witnesses are expected to prove their faith and what that shows about where their faith is actually placed.. i'd really appreciate your comments, either here or on the blog itself..
@ wobble, yeah I noticed my mistake, I'll need to get the freeminds guys to edit that part.
