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Why would they need to be Jehovah's witnesses?
Isn't it really all about Jesus?
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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What is the JW theology?
by Doug Mason inby "theology" i mean "the study of god (gk.
: theos).. jws keep rabbiting on ad nauseum about the trinity teaching being "irrational", "impossible to understand", etc.. i do not want this thread to be about the trinitarian doctrine.. i want to be given an explanation of what a jw believes.
i have seen so many arrows and spears thrown by jws, i want to know exactly what they are defending.. i want to see an explanation of "god" that is rational and can be understood.. doug.
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with prayer, asking for it. Without a "properly reverent attitude" (a.k.a. "holy spirit") one cannot access the applications of the Bible correctly.
1. What are the applications of the Bible? Are these the Governing Body's publications?
2. When Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would lead us into truth and testify about him, is this the same thing as having a "properly reverent attitude"?
If I have a properly reverent attitude, I will imitate Jehovah who is holy, therefore it can rightly be said that I then have a "holy spirit". Then, the "holy spirit" of others will bear witness with my "holy spirit" that our "holiness" comes from Jehovah, and unites us in it.
At first I thought you were serious, then I read the above.
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Circuit Oversear for dinner..."sorry no time to talk" remember this! Like Jesus is coming!
by Witness 007 ina sister rang and left a message to see how we are....but i called back the next day and she said...."oh sorry i have no time to talk, the circuit oversear is coming for dinner, can you call back?
" this reminds me of c.o dinners it's a major suck up...like jesus and his apostles are coming for dinner.
the pioneers like this sister always get the c.o to come over.. anyone had the pleasure?.
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Back before my wife and I were married I was friendly with the (single) CO Clive Pitman. He told me one time that he didn't really like getting huge 3 course lunches as it always made him sleepy in the afternoon. His preference was for a simple meal of soup and sandwiches; like a normal lunchtime meal...
So, I had him round for lunch one time to my little pioneer flat and my girlfriend (who's now my wife) made soup and sandwiches. He was appreciative.
The next CO who visited us was the infamous Terry Armstrong. By now I was married, and we invited Terry and his wife for lunch during his visit. Again, my wife made homemade soup and a big pile of sandwiches.
When the sandwiches were brought through from the kitchen, Terry and Ann just looked at them and then at each other. I noticed that they only had one small half of a sandwich each. Towards the end of lunchtime Ann spoke up and said, "you know, the Governing Body expects us to be served with a proper 3 course meal at lunchtime."
My wife was only 18 at the time, we'd only been married for a few months, and having the CO and his wife round for lunch at the time was really stressful to her. She was worried sick that what we (both pioneers) were offering wouldn't be good enough. Ann's ungrateful comments confirmed her worst fears.
I've never forgotten the look on Gail's face as she apologised over and over again to those two ungrateful bastards.
It was 14 years before we ever offered hospitality to a CO again.
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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What is the JW theology?
by Doug Mason inby "theology" i mean "the study of god (gk.
: theos).. jws keep rabbiting on ad nauseum about the trinity teaching being "irrational", "impossible to understand", etc.. i do not want this thread to be about the trinitarian doctrine.. i want to be given an explanation of what a jw believes.
i have seen so many arrows and spears thrown by jws, i want to know exactly what they are defending.. i want to see an explanation of "god" that is rational and can be understood.. doug.
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@ Spike;
This is a question for individual, personal research using WT publications. You can do it yourself, Doug. This is how you make the Truth of the Bible your own.
Where does the Holy Spirit come in?
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Ordained Ministers of J.W. part 1
by bobld inbaptisms are usually performed at assemblies.at the conclusion of the baptism talk,the baptism candidates are asked two q.affirmative answers qualifies the candidates as ordained ministers of j.w..we all have seen some candidates as young as 13 years,some as young as 12 years and even some as young as 9 years old.now in the eyes of the wbts these are qualified ordained ministers.. to my way of thinking these ordained ministers should be qualified to give sound advise or council.example,a 17 year old teenage boy has a problem with masturbation and is seeking advise.do you think he would receive sound advise on his masturbation problem from a 9 year old ordained minister of j.w.
(girl).in other religions this ordained minister would be qualified but i don't think a j.w.
is.. bob.
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The topic of the thread is Jehovah's Witnesses becoming Ordained Ministers at baptism. The topic is not infant baptism.
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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Why has this thread been allowed to turn into a debate about the Trinity?
The topic is "PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth"".
Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." Jesus said "Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him."
So, the challenge is to prove that JWs have the truth. According to the Truth's own words, to have him you need to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
Do Jehovah's Witnesses do this?
Perhaps around 10,000 of their 7 million members do. The rest are strongly discouraged to do this.
So, using that very simple benchmark, do Jehovah's Witnesses have the Truth?
No.
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Girl Flees for her life after becoming Christian
by AK - Jeff inhttp://abcnews.go.com/video/playerindex?id=8317410.
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ABC New story of a 17 year old Muslim girl who secretly became a Christian and whose family wants her to return to the family home. Her family discovered this through her postings on Facebook. Her father has threatened to kill her. He, however, has denied this in court.
(If she's 17, isn't she old enough to leave the family home?)
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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They don't go to war.
They have love among themselves.
They're fulfilling Matthew 24:14.
They wear suits.
They alone are using the name Jehovah.
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Selection of the JWs in 1918/1919 - how might a JW attempt to show from the Bible
by insearchoftruth ini had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.
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That would be quite some correction to make, to suddenly say, "woah, turns out we were actually wrong about 1919 after all."