even though my attandance at meetings is lessening, i still have to attend so as not to lose my income, friends and family.
i've started playing games to make the meetings go faster, for example, i have started annoying the hall servant by making silly requests such as asking him to turn the aircon on, then 10minutes later saying things like , "thanks for that but it looks like sister elderly is getting cold - she has just put her jumper on".
i also look for brothers and sisters who haven't got one or the books or the okm and make a real meal at getting one to them (its amazing how much noise you can make fumbling around the literature cupboard).. i am running out of ideas, can anyone else suggest something to to take the dullness out of the meetings.
You excuses are for why you shouldn't be a witness anymore, they in no way condone you disrespecting others people's right to worship.
Since when do JW respect other peoples' right to worship? Do you personally respect those who no longer wish to worship at the feet of the Governing Body? Pot/kettle etc etc.
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
Google OSCE.
NGO stands for Non-Governmental Organisation.
Wikipedia has tons of info on each.
- we have the bible as our ultimate authority.
- we have the bible as our ultimate authority.
who's authority will you accept as the ultimate one?).
Thanks for the comments.
I think it's important to realise that JWs need to be tackled on their playing field, namely that of Christianity. Therefore, I believe it's important to point to the blindindly obvious statements that Jesus made and compare/contrast them with what JW actually believe and practice.
I think a person who doesn't believe in God could use similar arguments to those I've used (as I know Besty has) and get their point over.
even though my attandance at meetings is lessening, i still have to attend so as not to lose my income, friends and family.
i've started playing games to make the meetings go faster, for example, i have started annoying the hall servant by making silly requests such as asking him to turn the aircon on, then 10minutes later saying things like , "thanks for that but it looks like sister elderly is getting cold - she has just put her jumper on".
i also look for brothers and sisters who haven't got one or the books or the okm and make a real meal at getting one to them (its amazing how much noise you can make fumbling around the literature cupboard).. i am running out of ideas, can anyone else suggest something to to take the dullness out of the meetings.
LOL @ despising.
So, when the Governing Body slags off those who leave and calls them evil and wicked, would that be classed as despising? I have relatives think I'm absolute scum; they despise me. And their despising of me is sponsored by the Governing Body! Bonus points.
But if you're happy to be a "Christian" and hang out with groups of people who believe it's acceptable to despise family members, more power to you.
check out paragraphs 6 & 7; you could not make this stuff up.
congregations will be studying this next week.. .
Reniaa, the coffee's brewing; this thread isn't about you! Shocker!
even though my attandance at meetings is lessening, i still have to attend so as not to lose my income, friends and family.
i've started playing games to make the meetings go faster, for example, i have started annoying the hall servant by making silly requests such as asking him to turn the aircon on, then 10minutes later saying things like , "thanks for that but it looks like sister elderly is getting cold - she has just put her jumper on".
i also look for brothers and sisters who haven't got one or the books or the okm and make a real meal at getting one to them (its amazing how much noise you can make fumbling around the literature cupboard).. i am running out of ideas, can anyone else suggest something to to take the dullness out of the meetings.
Reniaa, you mean you wouldn't describe your ducking and diving on here as 'childish games'?
this will be studied in two weeks time but it's such a special .
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Sickening.
i get sick to death of people denigrating mother teresa, saying that she was selfish and petty-minded.. i am especially fed up with those who say that her saintliness was purely an illusion created by her possessing minimal consciousness, like that of a small child or dog, and as such was further away from god than the average criminal.. i find this sort of talk utterly repulsive.
it is simply not right to say such horrible things about someone who was so sweet and gentle and who dedicated her whole life to helping others.. .
there!.
It would seem not.
check out paragraphs 6 & 7; you could not make this stuff up.
congregations will be studying this next week.. .
I love how they're so creatively vague while being so pointedly hateful;
"...apostates and other wicked men who use trickery and cunning for their own selfish purposes"
What exactly does any of that mean?
- we have the bible as our ultimate authority.
- we have the bible as our ultimate authority.
who's authority will you accept as the ultimate one?).
I was at church tonight and was asked to pray over the bread at communion. It's only the second time I've been asked to do it in church. It's a daunting, humbling experience to bow your head and address the Lord of Lords and thank him for his broken body. I can contrast this experience to praying over the bread in the Kingdom Hall Memorial; what can you possibly say, as a JW, in prayer to God about the death of Christ when you're forbidden (on fear of being regarded as a nutter) from having anything to do with the emblems?
Communion, to my mind, is a vitally important part of Christian worship; it's where you actually share in what Christ's death and spilt blood accomplished.
