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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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I was listening to Jay Hess's testimony and what I found interesting was that he said his spirit had left the WTS but his mind was still in. He was used as a 'trouble shooter' whereby he'd visit pastors, ministers or other people who were in some sort of ministry to JWs. He would go with a purpose of wearing them out and he'd do this by;
- never using the NWT or getting into discussions about the accuracy of the NWT
- never using Watch Tower publications or articles
- always trying to get the discussion off topic and back to the areas he could work best in
- he would admit all knowing all of the negative stuff about the WTS that's usually banded about by apostates, but his reply was always, "yeah, so what?"
Anyway, listening to his tactics and methods of confounding apostate discussion reminded me of Reniaa's methods on JWN. I realise that Simon and others believe that Reniaa was genuinely a single-mum raising 3 kids, one of whom is disabled, another of whom is just a baby, and was truthfully searching for the truth about the WTS. However, I don't. I'm sure Reniaa was several people and their sole purpose was to get threads off topic, obfuscate discussions and continually deflect arguments and objections regarding legitimate WTS issues onto areas such as the Trinity and the divinity of Christ.
Out of interest, what did Spike do to get thrown off?
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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site
by Blue Grass ini have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.
my first question is just for the atheist.
why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?
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Rather hilariously, my mother called me a coward for leaving the Watch Tower Society. I think it's typical cult-think to point to those who have left as being cowards - or in this case losers - when leaving a high-control religious cult is one of the hardest things you'll ever do in your life. It just means that those who are still allowing themselves to be controlled by the Governing Body are left feeling shortchanged in some way, possibly because they're left living the drudgery of JW life, and have to result to cheap ad hominem attacks.
Welcome to the forum anyway, I look forward to seeing your attitude change over the months.
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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Reniaa and Spike have quit at the same time?
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What will the JW religion be like in 2015?
by JimmyPage inover 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.
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what do you envision?.
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Expect to see a greater separation of the hardcore cult stuff with the more palatable mainstream stuff, as we're already seen with the Study and Public editions of the WT.
They will need to increase their grip on the loyal members, so expect greater levels of fear and intimidation (see the article "Family Worship - Vital for Survival" for their model). Along with this will come an escalation of persecution against dissenters. Faders will be firmly in their sights.
However, in a bid to drive new membership, expect them to appear more mainstream to the outside; shorter Sunday meeting will be one way they'll do this, along with an ever increasing sanitation, "don't-you-love-fluffy-pandas?"-type Watchtower articles for the public.
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Theodore Jaracz Update
by Japster in.
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latest news is that tj is up and around but is living in a house on the wallkill properties.. he is being tended to by a group of the societies doctors and nurses to make sure that he is continuing to improve.. shucks, guess he may be around giving orders for some time yet.. japster.
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This is how cults treat their leaders.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-30-09 WT Study (STEWARD)
by blondie inhttp://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
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Could this be one of those "wake up and smell the coffee" articles? My wife's brother-in-law, a local elder, commented to me when I told him we were attending church (this was last October) that he had noticed the FDS being elevated above Jesus. It was clear to me that this made him uneasy and he knew it was one of the reasons my wife and I were no longer going to the meetings.
You have to think that there are some who will be sufficiently troubled by the craziness of this article and will awaken from their stupor.
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I was baptised today!!!
by Blithe Freshman ini just want to share my happiness !.
the church i've been attending had scheduled last sunday for baptisms.
i was out of town for my family reunion & very disapointed over having to wait.
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welcome to a different cult. probably better than the jws, but a different cult nonetheless.
Just curious; what's your cult of choice and what caused you to join up?
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Why is the act of stopping meeting attendance so significant?
by dozy inone aspect of the leaving jw process has long puzzled me why can a fading jw become mentally disinterested , miss loads of meetings , become irregular in the ministry , perhaps even become involved in minor worldly conduct without too much concern from relatives or the elders over a period of years , even decades.
yet as soon as they make it become known that they are not going to the meetings anymore, all hell breaks loose.
elders dust down their od books and come calling on shepherding visits , perhaps for the first time for many years.
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Stopping attending meetings signifies;
- no longer "loving Jehovah"
- turning one's back on Jehovah
- tacit admission of wrongdoing
When I stopped attending the meetings, and told an elder (James Bovill) such, his reply included "you've turned your back on Jehovah", "Jehovah gives us two choices, life or death, it's clear which choice you've made", and "well, if there's wrongdoing involved it's best not to discuss it with others" (there was no wrongdoing involved).
Christians are supposed to believe that salvation comes through going to the Christ. Jehovah's Witnesses believe it comes from going to the meetings.
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What JW apologist do not understand.
by Anti-Christ inthe more i read the comments made by jw who still "believe" in the doctrines of the wt the more i see that they are in denial.
first off they debate on a board they are not even supposed to be on, they are going directly against the gb counsel.
when they debate they do not give the actual wt doctrine as an example they give their own personal opinion, their own interpretation a watered down version of the doctrine to make it look better, less aggressive.
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Why do the JW apologists like Reniaa, Spike and angeleyes all write the same? Lots of random mis-spelling and lols.