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  Wikipedia Bans Scientology from Editing their site..

  by sammielee24 in

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  wikipedia has banned the church of scientology and its members from editing its site after discovering that members of the church were editing articles in order to give the church favorable coverage.the move is being hailed as "an unprecedented effort to crack down on self-serving edits," and it is the first instance in which wikipedia has banned a group as large as the church of scientology.. the register reports:.

  according to evidence turned up by admins in this long-running wikiland court case, multiple editors have been "openly editing [scientology-related articles] from church of scientology equipment and apparently coordinating their activities.

  " leaning on the famed wikiscanner, countless news stories have discussed the editing of scientology articles from scientology ips, and some site admins are concerned this is "damaging wikipedia's reputation for neutrality.

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  Good news.
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  Operation Valkyrie - Could this happen in the "Nazi" Watchtower society?

  by Witness 007 in

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  the plot to kill hitler and take over the government by a large group of hitlers elite officers.

  the bomb in hitlers bunker did not kill him...they almost suceeded.....religiously the same "coupe" happened when hurbert armstrong died {world wide church} his new president adopted the trinity and tried to join the mainstream churches which divided the church into many factions.

  if these two ultra dedicated organisations can be overtaken and infultrated like the watchtower was with ray franz, edward dunlap....could this happen again?.

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  Yes, of course it's a possibility.
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  Video: Stand Firm Against the Devil's Crafty Acts!

  by Shepherd Book in

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  there's been a lot of talk on here about the crazy symposium at this spring's circuit assemblies, "stand firm against the devil's crafty acts.

  " so, my wife and i decided to attend the assembly, or at least just this symposium anyway.

  i recorded the whole symposium.. you can listen to the whole symposium (4 talks, >1 hour) here: http://www.watchtowerletters.com/media/devils_crafty_acts.mp3.

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  Thanks. I enjoyed reading your wife's blog about attending the assembly!
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  Is Mr. Stafford,still (again) a Jehovah's witness or disfellowshipped?

  by Koiné in

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  posted by greg staffordat 3:58 amsunday, november 30, 2008hello!

  welcome to "watching the ministry.

  " my name is greg stafford.

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  So, is Stafford the 21st Century CT Russell? Y'know, trying to start his own religion and all that? Why does the word 'plonker' come to mind?
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  Did the WT have advance warning of this...and so stopped the group study?

  by Gill in

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  is this the real reason that the watchtower has stopped all group studies?.

  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread467527/pg1.

  did they have advance warning that this was about to start happening in the usa?.

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  The biggest issue I can see with small church gatherings (by small I mean between 12 and 20 people) is car parking. On a tight residential street, an addition 6 or 8 cars on the night of the BSG would probably cause a headache for the neighbours. Maybe in new builds they recognise this, especially with residential streets offering less and less pavement space for additional parking.
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  DF or DA what do you think the difference is?

  by Rosey in

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  i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.

  i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.

  before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.

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  Do you as a df'd person see yourself as different from a da'd person?

  Do you as a da'd person see yourself as different from a df'd person?

  I'm disassociated "by my actions" (namely, going to church. I see myself as different from someone who was DFd for unrepentant gross sin, such as adultery. I merely exercised by God-given free will and chose to not go to the meetings of JWs and instead go to a local church. To be punished for doing so is, of course, ridiculous, and there is not precedent in Scripture to place someone like me in the same category as an adulterer.

  When it comes to cases of disfellowshipping such as that of Hobo Ken, well....that's a different matter entirely....
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  Did the WT have advance warning of this...and so stopped the group study?

  by Gill in

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  is this the real reason that the watchtower has stopped all group studies?.

  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread467527/pg1.

  did they have advance warning that this was about to start happening in the usa?.

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  This is something the Society would have fought if they felt it would be in their interests to do so.

  The BSG being ditched is law-related, I'm sure, but I doubt it's this particular issue.
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  Swearing - Do you?

  by Rosey in

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  one of the things you're not supposed to do as a witness is swear.......but sometimes the definition of what a swear word was went too far.

  for example in my family at one point my parents decided for a little while that we should stop saying the word "bum" after having used it forever.

  this did not last as a swear word for very long as.........well i mean .....come on!.

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  The Irish are natural swearers...
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  DF or DA what do you think the difference is?

  by Rosey in

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  i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.

  i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.

  before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.

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  Rosey said;

  "However since being df'd I have had NO contact with my family who are strict jw's and I have recently spoken to some da'd exjw's who still have some contact with their families. Obviously everyone's situation is different and while I now just think we're all people who've decided not to have anything more to do with the borg ( whether through actions or words) I can't help wonder about YOUR opinions."

  It depends very much on the person's family. In your case, you quite rightly define your family as "strict jw's". In my own case, my parents still speak to me, but I don't think they're as strict as other JWs. Also, they still want to see my kids...

  We have other family members who have admitted that they don't see us as evil sinners...
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  DF or DA what do you think the difference is?

  by Rosey in

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  i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.

  i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.

  before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.

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  Berean is right.

  If a person is known to be 'sinning', the elders will meet with them. If it's clear from preliminary chats that the person isn't going to change their view they'll be asked if they still wish to be known as a JW. If the answer is no, they're asked to put it in writing. If they refuse to do so the elders will as if they understand that, as they've admitted this in front of two witnesses, they are now disassociated. An announcement is made very quickly stating that the person is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  As Berean correctly states, this saves the local BoE being liable for 'wrongly disfellowshipping'; they person has, by their own words, done the work of a judicial committee.

  This is exactly how it was done in my case and I know of two others locally who went through the same cat and mouse game.

  As for the difference between being DFd and DAd, being DAd automatically makes you an apostate and thus the worse type of sinner; beyond help or hope.