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  Sayings of Everlasting Life heard "Nowhere Else" but in JW Organization?

  by InterestedOne in

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  i just finished reading the 9/15/2010 wt study edition article for nov 8-14, and the last few sentences of paragraph 7 on page 18 jumped out at me.

  referring to the "one association" which i assume means the jw organization, the author says "... where else can we turn?

  nowhere else can we hear the sayings of everlasting life.

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  lostsheep82

  Welcome IO

  Keep reading and digging, but eventually your study 'teachers' will probably stop the study. They want to teach and persuade YOU, not the other way around. They always get wierd when someone fights back with legit questions, it stumps them because it wasn't something covered at the Theocratic Ministry School. That's where they are taught 'how' to preach so to speak and what to say, and how to turn around questions and answer them. It's quite robotic if you ask me. I was born and raised and when I use to go door to door and someone would ask a question beyond what I was 'prepared' to say at the door, I was stumped. I didn't know the answer, hence it provokes a 'return visit'. A return visit is a good thing to have on your time card when you send it in every month, it looks good on a JW!

  The whole system is so backwards from what Jesus taught and meant. I wish you all the luck in your journey...
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  My daughter knows.

  by easyreader1970 in

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  monday night.

  service meeting.. we're sitting there and my daughter (9-years-old) is sitting between my wife and i. my wife doesn't like it when she sits between us but my kids argue alot.

  so we keep two kids at opposite ends and one in the middle.. out of the blue, she taps me on the shoulder and whispers: "daddy, are you an atheist?".

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  Interesting: Can you tell me where I could find evidence in a WT that they don't deny the Big Bang theory?

  That's something Im interested in because I don't deny that evolution is a natural process, but I do believe in God and creation. The entire universe though, there's so much out there who's to know hay:)

  But interesting to find something about them admitting to a big bang theory would be great!
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  Mental torture

  by stuckinamovement in

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  it is pretty interesting to see the mental, emotional and physical impact that people have when realize the teachings of the org are lies.

  i am not going to name any names or point fingers but i can say i have tremendous empathy for those who are recently aware.. let me splane,.

  now that i know about the lies that i have been taught and subsequently taught people myself, i have become like a lost person.

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  lostsheep82

  I understand completely! Even though I KNOW it's not the 'truth', I find it hard to shake EVERYTHING I've ever known. I mean I can't even talk about religion or God cause I feel like I don't know anything anymore. I don't know what's real and what's not. I think a lot of us resort to drinking. It's not the answer, but it does silence the brain. I find I get so anxious and obsessed with figuring out WHY this isn't the truth. All I ask constantly is WHY? It's almost like the first 20 years of my life was a dream, now waking up to reality.

  Reality is better then the dream but it's still hard.
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  Watchtower is voice of Jehovah

  by lostsheep82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't know how to copy and paste properly on here but i stopped research almost a year ago.

  started reading a few things in magazines again cause my mom is harping on me about the new jan 2011 watchtower stating that jw's are only true religion.

  then i found this quote in sept 15, 2010 wt page 13 para 8.

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  @ OUTLAW-very funny!

  I guess frustration just over takes me with this religion. I made my decision not to go back, because I don't believe it, but I have this nagging drive to help those that are still in. Makes me want to scream how they control peoples lives.
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  Watchtower is voice of Jehovah

  by lostsheep82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't know how to copy and paste properly on here but i stopped research almost a year ago.

  started reading a few things in magazines again cause my mom is harping on me about the new jan 2011 watchtower stating that jw's are only true religion.

  then i found this quote in sept 15, 2010 wt page 13 para 8.

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  lostsheep82

  I don't know how to copy and paste properly on here but I stopped research almost a year ago. Started reading a few things in magazines again cause my mom is harping on me about the new Jan 2011 Watchtower stating that JW's are only true religion. Then I found this quote in Sept 15, 2010 WT page 13 para 8. "Thus, what is taught is not from men, but Jehovah". I can't believe they still write that. I called my mom and argued over this. How could they say that what the WT writes is from Jehovah. I am going in circles here because they are trying to replace God and Jesus IMO. They state in so many places, that we NEED the WT and the organization to mediate and I say Jesus is the only mediator, and they twist it. Is there any way of making these people realize SOMETHING? ANYTHING? Everythign I throw at them, they dispute. My mom runs to my step dad who is very well versed in the bible and then they reply back going, "read the rest of the article, in pentacost 33 the faithful slave was anointed....yada yada" but they don't answer HOW THEY KNOW that in 1914 they were anointed? I mean, I thought they got rid of the 1914 thing, but it's right back in the WT! I DON'T GET IT!

  It still frustrates me the BS they publish in the magazines. Makes me want to cry!

  the apostles and older men who were in Je-rusalem."—Acts 15:6, 19-22; 16:4.

  8 Similarly today, a Governing Body com-posed of spirit-anointed Christians contrib-utes to the unity of the worldwide con-gregation. The Governing Body publishesspiritually encouraging literature in manylanguages. This spiritual food is based onGod’s Word. Thus, what is taught is notfrom men but from Jehovah.—Isa. 54:13.

  9 Christian overseers also promote unity
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  Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion

  by lostsheep82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't posted in a long time.

  most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes.

  my mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out.

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  A "Distinctive" Group

  Is original Christianity lost forever? By nomeans. There is one group today that de-serves special consideration. Jehovah’s Wit-nesses emulate the first Christians like no oth-

  er religious people. They are not linked to anyreligion in Christendom. TheEncyclopedia ofReligion describesthemas"distinctive,"be-cause they base all their beliefs on "the au-thority of the Bible, which entirely supplantstradition."

  Like the first Christians, Jehovah’s Wit-nesses do not take sides in political conflicts.A paper published by the National Acade-my of Sciences of Ukraine states that Jeho-vah’s Witnesses aim to overcome "racial, na-tional, religious, social, and economicaldifferences." The study explains that Jeho-vah’s Witnesses do not engage in "anti-state

  activity" and are "law-abiding citizens of theircountry."Professor Wojciech Modzelewski, from theWarsaw University in Poland, wrote in hisbook Pacifism andVicinity: "Jehovah’s Wit-nesses make up the largest community in theworld today that objects to wars." Because they closely follow the pattern of first-centuryChristians, it could be said that Jehovah’sWitnesses have successfully reinstated theform of worship that was established byChrist and his apostles. That is the kind ofChristianity that is indeed a force for peace.—

  My mom read this like it was her duty to warn me that the Society says they are the only true relgion. Bless her heart, but she feels that because of this article stating that they are the only true religion (more in the magazine it states that also). This whole thing makes me SICK:(
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  Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion

  by lostsheep82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't posted in a long time.

  most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes.

  my mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out.

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  Now to read the quote in the Sept 15 watchtower that what comes from the organization IS basically Jehovah's mouth? WTF! I need a drink for this one. Been 1.5 years since I stopped my JW research, but the JW mom doesn't stop. Guess I need to read the mags again to keep up with the BS they publish:)
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  Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion

  by lostsheep82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't posted in a long time.

  most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes.

  my mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out.

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  My moms exact words were she had to tell me because if she didn't "warn" me, she would be bloodguilty. I just wish there was a way of THEM seeing the LIGHT. Saddens me, truly.
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  Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion

  by lostsheep82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't posted in a long time.

  most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes.

  my mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out.

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  lostsheep82

  I haven't posted in a long time. Most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes. My mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out. You can download the PDF for January 2011 awake here:

  http://www.jw.org/index.html

  It blatently states that JW's are the only true relgion quoting book writers and the relgion encyclopedia. My mom is super excited and the JW's have been waiting for an article like this to come out. I know they have said it before, but are they grasping at straws here? I want so badly to have my mom realize the truth about this religion but they publish stuff like this it makes the believers all the more avid!

  It makes me shake my head in frustration:(
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  The moment I knew it was crap....

  by Brocephus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  already had doubts from the time i got pubes... but i was about 15 and we were studying the revelation "book" for the upteenth time.

  i realized for every actual bible verse they qouted there was 2-3 paragraphs of conjecture, assumption, faulty logic and just plain stupidity.

  that's when i began to plan my escape.

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  lostsheep82

  I'm with you Dinah! That was my FORMOST proof we were the "truth" while going in service. It worked with my mom, so I followed suit, I'd ask the householder to get their own bible and 'proove' to them that their bible had God's name, thus a return visit, and a BIG atta boy from my parents. I was so good at convincing people!