Thanks OT
<shiver>
is there a true religion from gods standpoint?.
note to the speaker:.
standpoint.
Thanks OT
<shiver>
today at the meeting we were told by the co, that we got a gift three months ago!
the gift we got is the one more free evening weekly, because of the new meeting arrangement.
this gift was given to us by jehovah through faithfull an discreet slave.
Any "gift" given with conditions
is not a gift but a collar and a leash
meant to control and direct you
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestcrisis/idusisl330182.
couldn't of happened to a nicer bunch.. .
PFFFFFFFFT!!
Morons
they try to do everything else so absolutely correct and perfectly matching on that night.. jerusalem is shrouded in the soft light of dusk as the full moon rises over the mount of olives.
in a large furnished room, jesus and the 12 are reclining at a prepared table.
"i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer," he says.
They wouldn't wash my feet.................
wouldn't let them
But....................
They can kiss my ass!!
the march 2009 american religious identification survey from trinity college and the march 7, 2009, national journal article on "rise of the godless" present the following data: .
when asked for their religious affiliation, 15 percent of americans say none, but only 0.7 percent say atheist ..... .
i present the above info just as a reminder that very, very few people consider themselves atheist despite decades of "scientific" propaganda suggesting otherwise.
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha,
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha,
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha
.........................OH!!!!
You were Serious!!
....i am so frikkin obsessed about the jw lies and my newfound truths about them, and it is prob driving me crazy or causing depression.....if i wake up in the middle of the night, i never get back to sleep as my mind starts racing about jw crap and how it affects my marriage, and then how can i make this marriage work with her such a hardcore dub....i told my wife i now realize i am an abusive husband.....i must stop talking to her about the real truth!!
!..........it is killing her inside and we have had soooo many bad discussions that turn into arguments......on top of that she says she is now closer to jah and the org than at any other time in her life, that now that she has no positive direction from me, she relies totally on jehovah and prays to him more than ever..... we talked about separation, and that i was going to lose her over our religious differences........i feel so sorry for what i have put her through, and i know that if i can not really shut up with my ohsohelpful comments of truths about this truth she will leave me due to "spiritual endangerment".......and she said she is damm close to that happening.....i told her i knew it to and would so hate to lose her due to our religious differences.
at my recent shepherding call, they said to try and stop focusing on the negatives i have found in jw, and focus on the good things...and that is not a bad idea even if i never go back to meetings....there are good things about dubs....the efforts at ending racism and at least for me, some really good lifelong friends.......even their hope for the future was pretty good to me, even though it is a bunch of crap and i no longer believe the bible is gods word or inspired.....it does have some good suggestions for a happy life and ideas as to how to treat others........but so do just about every holy book of other faiths........ i had plans to start going to some meetings with my wife, but today, after a sleepless night i told her i just dont think i can do it, and just as she strongly believes it is the truth, i do not, and that i think the guys on the gb are not led by holy spirit cause if she will read the proclaimers book, she will see we have never gotten a single bible inerpretation of prophecy correct.......so she says "so what is there?
Oompa
Religion has destroyed...........
Families
Relationships
Individuals
Friendships
Pets
Farm Animals
from the beginning
Direct doctrinal engagement
will only kick in the cult mindset
I think the assesment of yourself
is correct (depression, dissonance,
booze, etc.)
Think before you speak!!!
Reconcile your own cult personality
before attempting to cure some other person
Do not be confrontational. IT WON'T WORK!!!
Hang in there
Can only speak for myself but
I'm pulling for you and wish you only
the best of luck
doesn't matter how hard i try i always end up with a bag of odd socks i can't for the life of me find their mates.
i suspect i might have gremlins in my washing machine..
Ghosts in the machines
i know it is happening a bunch in the usa....and ya...jesus said the poor will aways be with us.....but is it true that the rich are no happier than the poor?......is there a middle ground where happy flourishes?
i am not poor by any means, but my income is about to change bigtime!
and i am just not lookin forward to it.........oompa.
Me
Started poor in early 70's
Made a bunch in the 80's
Lost just about everything
in the early 90's
Made it back by avoiding the tech
crash and made a ton
Got back in after the 9-11 dip
and pulled most out at the 14,000
peak. Sold my real estate investments
in 2oo5. not the peak but good enough
I always bail when things begin to look
frothy
Now I'm looking at some real estate
i`ve been "hanging around" on this jw.net for a while, so this is my very first posting.
i`m a former jw from germany, learnt the truth at the age of 20, got babtized 3 years later, and left the wt (for various reasons) about 4 years ago.
so i just like to say a warm friendly "hello" to everyone.
Hello
Welcome
i first had access to the internet in 1994. i thought it was amazing all the information at my fingertips.
i have no idea what search engine i used before google.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl9wu2kwwsy.
I think it was around 1984 or so
I had just read "Neuromancer" by William Gibson
and it sparked my interest
I got on to Usenet and found some interesting
groups and I took off from there
Been plugging away ever since