Posts by Allegory

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MY PROJECT IS (FINALLY) FINISHED!

by Mary in

for those of you who are interested, the project i've been working on for the last few months is finally finished.

i originally did a thread about it back in april: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/156497/1.ashx.

it seems that alot of us still have family members in the religion and have not infrequent arguments with them about some of the beliefs and practices.

Allegory

Thank you, Mary, for e-mailing me a copy. It is very thorough. You did a tremendous amount of work. I truly appreciate it. The Phillip Morris info boggled my mind.

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So Any Newbies and Lurkers - Talk to Us - How Are You Doing ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

i wanted to put this thread out for any newbies and lukers to see how things are going in your life !

please know that those of us who have exited the jw religion care about you - so if you need to vent about what you have been experiencing - this thread is a good place to do it !

many here, including myself have been through what you are going through - so please post your thoughts here - and we will try to assist you !

A little about me. I studied in the early 70's and was around for the 75 mispredication and, while not involved for many years, some of their changing beliefs always bugged me. Actually, what bothered me was that my ex-friend would always deny that those things happened. This "friend" that I had for the last six years is a JW. Since I wouldn't believe in the faithful and discreet slave, she recently dropped me cold. Never even called to say bye. Since she hadn't been around the witnesses for too many years, she had never heard of their saying that organ transplants were like cannibalism or that you weren't allowed to go to psychiatrists. When I asked her about the 75 predication, she said that the WTBS never said anything like that. Well, I was there! It's too bad that those people didn't study sites like this before they got baptised. When I tried to show her things like documents about the UN affiliation, she told me they were doctored. Guess there was no way of convincing her of anything.

I do want to know one thing. Where does it say in the bible that you need someone to explain the bible to you? My "friend' made a point of saying that I could not understand it on my own. Maybe I can't, but I sure don't need the WTBS interpretation.

As an aside, I would recommend the book "The Children's Story" by James Clavell (yep, the guy who wrote Shogun). It can be read in about 20 minutes or less, but it carries quite a punch. A quote from the book--"It was then that I realized how completely vulnerable my child's mind was--any mind for that matter--under controlled circumstances." Yes, I was under controlled circumstances and it certainly warped my thinking.

For years I thought the WTBS was right and that I was just unable to believe. After having access to this site, I discovered that they are the ones that are wrong. I was saved by you guys, thanks.

Sorry this is so long and disjointed.

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What happened at the recent DC?

by Allegory in

jw
friends

hi everyone, i'm new and angry right now.

a little history.

about 1974 i was studying and continued to study for about a year or two.

Allegory

Hi everyone, I'm new and angry right now. A little history. About 1974 I was studying and continued to study for about a year or two. I became an unbaptized publisher but when it became time to get baptized, I couldn't go through with it. The person I studied with was devastated. Throughout the years I would say that I continued to believe what the witnesses taught. Fast forward to 2002. A new witness came by and we hit it off. I "studied" not too enthusiastically, all this time. Mostly I was lonely and we would go out to lunch, etc. Well, I told her from the start that I didn't believe in the faithful and discreet slave and during this time she was never able to change my mind. I never could buy that the JWs were the direct connection with Jehovah. Ridiculous! Anyway, ever since the DC a couple of weeks ago, she completely ignores me. No calls. I dropped some pictures off for her and she said "I'll call you." Never happened. I'm really hurt. She used to always say "what are friends for?" Well, I guess that answer is "good for nothing." Because she never had any money, I would buy things for her. I feel used although it was of my own making.

So the question--what was said at the convention about people who are not making progress?

Thanks for listening. I enjoy this site and have learned a lot. I think she knew was reading an "apostate" site.