Posts by HildaBingen

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Thought Experiments and Bill Bowen

by HildaBingen in

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i once had a friend who had racial epithets hurled at her by a white man.

he was not the only one who showed himself to be a racist.

she also went to get a job at a huge prominent corporation in a prosperous country and she did not get the job because she was a certain color.

HildaBingen

Thanks for correcting the spelling, dear. I could not remember whether bigot has too g's or one.

In case you overlooked the title of this thread, I was doing a thought experiment, dear. I was pulling a "Nathan" on you good people in this place.

If one can generalize from a few incidents of racism to a big problem with racism, why cannot she do the same when it comes to molestation? Or in Mr Bowen's case, why cannot he illegitimately generalize from a few cases to 23,000?

Just a mystical thought.

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Thought Experiments and Bill Bowen

by HildaBingen in

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i once had a friend who had racial epithets hurled at her by a white man.

he was not the only one who showed himself to be a racist.

she also went to get a job at a huge prominent corporation in a prosperous country and she did not get the job because she was a certain color.

HildaBingen

I once had a friend who had racial epithets hurled at her by a white man. He was not the only one who showed himself to be a racist. She also went to get a job at a huge prominent corporation in a prosperous country and she did not get the job because she was a certain color. She knows this is the case because the company later got in trouble for discriminationagainstwomen and people of color and were punished by their government.

From these incidents, I conclude racism is a big problem in the country I am talking about. Do not tell me it is all in my head. White folks are biggots. I have the experience and stats to prove it, hon.

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Barb Anderson gets FRONT PAGE again!!!

by Mulan in

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here is yet another article with a great interview with barb.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4111321&brd=1614&pag=461&dept_id=161052&rfi=6.

(hey simon when did you do that 2 post limit .

HildaBingen

Oz:

:But what's in you, Hilda?:

Have you not read what the New Testament says, dear? I am in Christ and Christ is in me. In the mystic tradition, the differentiation between knower and known breaks down, hon. We are one. "That thou art."

:Don't bother saying goodbye. Just go away and stop hijacking informative threads.:

Go away? I just got here, dear. Can I not exercise my freeness of speech in this lovely place? Was I mistaken in thinking that this place is for those interested in JW issues and those who advocate freeness of speech? You tell me, dear.

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Evil and God (Ken)

by HildaBingen in

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dear ken:.

i hope your brother in law is faring well.

you asked about evil the other day and i am now getting back to you on that subject.. i cannot prove that god exists.

HildaBingen

Dearest Ken:

:Your view of God, is just in your imagination as with all religions. If you chose to conjure up a God to suit your experiences that is fine with me. If a real God existed that was concerned with mankind and how we viewed him it would seem to me he would at least give some concrete evidence and guidence that could be proven to be from him.:

I believe that God has given us such concrete evidence and guidance, Ken. But do you think it is reasonable to expect God to force humans to accept the evidence and guidance he has given? Ken, your statement also presupposes that "proof" is the end-all and be-all. I am not denigrating proof, dear, but proof is a pluriform notion, dear Ken and it is limited. Keep that in mind.

:There are about as many religions within the Christain faith as there are outside it. Which group has the real truth or do you just create your own? God's holy spirit I was lead to believe was directing his followers yet the religions that claim his guidence all change their doctrines, even the bible from the old days to the more recent one of Christ teachings. Does God keep changing his mind?:

God does not change his mind in the way you indicate, sir. But this mystic thinks we get ahead of ourselves if we ask who has the truth. We must first establish a touchstone for the truth. We must answer the question, what is truth? We must also establish that there is a God. What is he, if he exists, like? This ol' lady thinks it is ludicrous to imagine a God who neither communicates with his creatures nor allows them to "perceive" him. I know all of what I have just said is a tall order, Ken. But I urge you to pray, read and study the Bible and related publications. Ironically a number of the best theistic arguments have come from the non-Witness camp. Argument in the long run proves nothing though. But methinks that arguments can make one think. Who knows where you might end up?

I wish you the best on your spiritual journey. We must all take it. Even Joseph Campbell realized that.

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Barb Anderson gets FRONT PAGE again!!!

by Mulan in

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here is yet another article with a great interview with barb.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4111321&brd=1614&pag=461&dept_id=161052&rfi=6.

(hey simon when did you do that 2 post limit .

HildaBingen

Hi friend Farkel:

May you have peace by finding Christ.

True having one's name on the front page of a worldly periodical does not mean that one is automatically excluded from the new earth. Generally, dear, it is not the case.

"Woe, whenever all men speak well of you, for things like these are what their forefathers did to the false prophets."

(Jesus Christ said these words)

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Happy Mothers Day to all Mommys!!!!!!

by Cassiline in

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happy mother's day!!!!

for all the mommys who stay up all night with a sick child.

for those who are a taxi to every event under the sun, the cooks, maids, doctors, nurses to every cut and scrape.

HildaBingen

Dearest silverleaf:

:You write: >May I lean on one of the biggest dogs in this forum for a moment?<

Can you clarify this statement please?:

Sure, dear one. Ms lilacs told me that if I cannot run with the "big dogs" then I should stay off the "court." By this statement, I understood her to imply that ex-jws posting here are "big dogs." I then inferred that you must be one of the biggest dogs here since you have taken the time to engage me in conversation, dear. Hope you now understand what I tried to say.

:>I wish to be as wise and profound as you, dear.<

Then study Paganism and perhaps you will someday.:

I have studied paganism, dear. Found it wanting. Mene, mene, tekel, parsin.

:I will honestly say I don't know where the tradition comes from, but I can say that setting aside one day of the year and calling it Mother's Day or Father's Day or Grandparent's Day or Secretaries Day or whatever day you want to call it, does not and should not diminish the respect and gratitude those people deserve all year long. Getting upset about having one day called a particular day certainly serves no purpose.:

I guess I am not upset about calling a certain day Mother's day or watever. My genuine concern is with how things originate (their etiology) and why people celebrate them. It seems to me that a lot of these days that are set aside are pagan in origin and they are celebrated for commercial reasons these days. I could be wrong. But it never hurts to study and find out where traditions come from, my friend.

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Barb Anderson--Front Page of the Tenn. paper

by VeniceIT in

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http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/02/05/17418642.shtml?element_id=17418642 .

here is her front page article, luv the kh sign in the background!!!.

ven

HildaBingen

Dearest grunt:

You said you have trouble comprehending the expression, "presence of absence."

I can understand your plight, dear. But to say it simply, the presence of absence is just what it sounds like, grunt. The expression pretty much means (in a way) that language, like thought, ultimately fails when it comes to communicating meaning. There is a curious presence of absence when it comes to words, my friend.

What we are saying is that language is paradoxical. For if absence is present in a word, then it means that meaning is void in the word we have in mind. But the paradox is how can absence be present in language since absence (by definition) is the very negation of presence?

I leave the smart guys to figure out this dillema, grunt. I just glory in the majesty of God and his son and all that they have done for us mere mortals. that is why I take delight in mysteries. And by the way, I did not vote for Clinton.

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Barb Anderson--Front Page of the Tenn. paper

by VeniceIT in

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friends

http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/02/05/17418642.shtml?element_id=17418642 .

here is her front page article, luv the kh sign in the background!!!.

ven

HildaBingen

Dearest Mr Farkel:

Brother Paul says that we should use our time wisely. therefore I am not going to waste any more time correcting your skewed viewpoint of matters. Who is the one tripping over oneself? You typed "principals" when you evidently meant "principles." Then you blame little old me for not understanding what you mean. This mystic fails to understand such "logic" dear.

You also said that dubs have no "principles." Really, dear? Even a thief has principles, it would seem dear. Principles can be either good or bad. So surely dubs do have principles, hon.

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Happy Mothers Day to all Mommys!!!!!!

by Cassiline in

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happy mother's day!!!!

for all the mommys who stay up all night with a sick child.

for those who are a taxi to every event under the sun, the cooks, maids, doctors, nurses to every cut and scrape.

HildaBingen

Dearest silverleaf:

May I lean on one of the biggest dogs in this forum for a moment? I wish to be as wise and profound as you, dear. Can you please tell me what the purpose of setting aside one day a year for your dad or mom is? Why not honor them everyday? Where does this tradition come from, dear?

:Hilda,

Maybe you should call yourself Hilda in Paul rather than Hilda in Christ if you think the words of a mysogynist apostle are more important than the Commandment that says 'Honor thy father and mother.':

I quoted both accounts, dearie. I think both enjoinders are equal in authority and go hand-in-hand, hon. And stop the circumstantial ad hominem on my brother Paul.

:I always thought that old argument was so weak - 'oh shouldn't everyday be mother's day... blah blah blah...' It certainly doesn't hold true for those whose parents are DF or DA and are shunned with the idea that it's more important to follow the laws of the WTS than the Bible.:

Why is the argument about everyday being mother's or father's day weak? O tell me, wise one of the forum?

And as far as honoring one's parents who are DF or DA goes, they should still receive honor for being one's parents. This does not mean that a child should unnecessarily hobknob with her parent's though if they are not part of the body, silver.

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Evil and God (Ken)

by HildaBingen in

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dear ken:.

i hope your brother in law is faring well.

you asked about evil the other day and i am now getting back to you on that subject.. i cannot prove that god exists.

HildaBingen

:Everyone has to have the God experience for herself.
What about men?:

I was speaking generically, hon.

:I know that my Redeemer liveth and you cannot take that away from me.[/i]
I, too, have readeth the King Jameth Verthion.:

Hast thou?

:Hilda, how can you possibly excuse all the evil that has been committed in the name of Christ? Did you feel the Crusades and the Inquisition in a "sensuous" way too?:

When did this mystic excuse evil done in Christ's name? You must remember that not everyone professing to be in christ is really in him.

I have experienced God. There is a world of difference between perceiving God and experiencing pseudo-christianity.