Posts by HildaBingen

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

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as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

HildaBingen

Dearest celia,

I can see that you are not one who prefers to listen to the voice of reason or mysticism--so I will let you have the last word, my dear. Let me just say two things.

I do not approve of child molestation. Got that?

God uses humans to sometimes straighten up human messes. Is he using Bill. Maybe God is, hon. What if he is not?

There is nothing worse than man trying to handle some problem he is not assigned to handle nor capable of handling, dear sis. Look at the mess that men have made of the Middle East.

Jeremiah 10:23

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Bill Bowens Trail of Naivete

by Psychdigg in

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i did a search on bill bowens postings in this forum.

very interesting.

revealing!.

When psych referred to Bill lack of respect for confidentiality, I think he or she was referring to Bill's failure to keep his mouth shut about the young man in his congregation. If you want to approve of such unethical behavior, then go right ahead. What a shame!

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

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as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

HildaBingen

Dear That:

:Hello Dunns the Scott. I'm glad you understand why Bowen went public. Because you and I know that NOBODY would have heard him if he had protested quietly following "Theocratic order". He would have been ousted and ignored.:

Who is this Dunns the Scott person? Is he or she interested in the mystical tradition as well? I did not say that I understand why Bowen went public. My contention is just the opposite--If he knew anything about the sociology of religion, he would have opted for a different route, as I see it. But then, I am just an old mystic floating in the clouds.

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Is Anything Worth Dying For?

by HildaBingen in

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i often hear people here talk about the horrible jw willingness to die for blood transfusions.

maybe jws are mistaken when it comes to the bt issue; maybe not.

however i wonder if there is anything that is really worth dying for in this life.. for me, to live is christ and to die is gain.

HildaBingen

I have heard 'Relax' and I think the song stinks. Don't ask me why.

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Is Anything Worth Dying For?

by HildaBingen in

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i often hear people here talk about the horrible jw willingness to die for blood transfusions.

maybe jws are mistaken when it comes to the bt issue; maybe not.

however i wonder if there is anything that is really worth dying for in this life.. for me, to live is christ and to die is gain.

HildaBingen

D8TA:

:Clarify this a bit more. This is a self application question. The opinions and one's search for decisions in one's existence, relies entirely upon the person whom is living their existence.

You asked: "Do you ALL (are you percieving this board as a "collective"?) think that a person should preserve her(your singular reference to yourself) present life at all cost?:

My use of the word "all" does not imply that I think this board is a collective. I was merely trying to elicit the opinion of all on this board who are willing to answer. My use of the singular pronoun "her" is an example of a generic reference. I am not in favor of the patriarchal use of "he" or "him" as a generic word.

:In basic, you are looking to a collective opinion on your current situation? Are you asking the "mob" for opinion on your point of view? Or, are you asking a general question, which pertains to each individuals opinion?:

No I am not looking to a collective opinion on my situation. My question is general. I just want to see if anyone here thinks that there is anything in this world that one should be willing to lay down her life for, my dear.

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

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as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

HildaBingen

Dear Celia,

I know that the truth can sometimes hurt, dear. Bill says what you want to hear and you like him. I speak an unpopular message or, to be more exact, I ask unpopular questions--and it pains some here. Oh well. God and Christ come first in my life, hon.

But to answer your question, I think the right way to handle matters is by waiting on God and following his holy book.

Practically that can mean that one works for change within an organization or social movement without undermining the very organization that one SAYS he is trying to change. As far as the excuse about wanting to remain a Witness so as to effect change more effectively, I simply do not buy it. How many Witnesses are willing to listen to Mr Bowen now that they have read his remarks on the inet, in Christianity Today or on any other public medium? Maybe a few but surely not that many. Bowen knew that he would be viewed as a dissident the moment he went public. If he did not know this, he is not the brightest candle in the cake.

Maybe Bowen should have obtained a sociology degree before opening his mouth. He could have learned something about social movements, especially, religious ones.

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Is Anything Worth Dying For?

by HildaBingen in

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i often hear people here talk about the horrible jw willingness to die for blood transfusions.

maybe jws are mistaken when it comes to the bt issue; maybe not.

however i wonder if there is anything that is really worth dying for in this life.. for me, to live is christ and to die is gain.

HildaBingen

Dear Fred:

I will gladly die in the name of Christ and Yahweh. I thus do not fault JWs if they think they need to die to be loyal to God.

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I'm just too smart for my own good!

by lv4fer in

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when the elder called to talk to me the other day, he told me that one of my problems was that he didn't want to boost my ego, but that i have a higher than average intellectual ability and part of my problem was that i look too deep into things.

i tend to analyze things a bit too much.

he thinks its because i went to college, that may be part of my problem.. imagine that, i'm just too smart.

HildaBingen

A word of advice to lv:

"If anyone among you thinks he is wise in this system of things, let him become a fool, that he may become wise."

1 Corinthians 3:18 (Brother Paul)

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Is Anything Worth Dying For?

by HildaBingen in

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friends

i often hear people here talk about the horrible jw willingness to die for blood transfusions.

maybe jws are mistaken when it comes to the bt issue; maybe not.

however i wonder if there is anything that is really worth dying for in this life.. for me, to live is christ and to die is gain.

HildaBingen

I often hear people here talk about the horrible JW willingness to die for blood transfusions. Maybe JWs are mistaken when it comes to the BT issue; maybe not. However I wonder if there is anything that is really worth dying for in this life.

For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Don't get me wrong. I do not have some type of death wish. But I think some things are worth being persecuted for and even dying for--in this life. Do you all think that a person should preserve her present life at all cost?

I will now shut up so that I will not be called a troll, whatever that is.

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

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as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

HildaBingen

Dear Ken,

I hope all goes well with your bother-in-law's operation. I want to get back with you later about evil and God. Hilda understands how you feel--in some ways.