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Biopure's Announcement (PURE SPIN!!!!!!!!!!)

by hawkaw in

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in another thread maximus ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10757&site=3 ) posted an upbeat announcement about biopure's hemopure - hemoglobin based product derived from stored cow's blood that the hospital information service of the watchtower has said a witness can take, conscience premitting of course.. well, don't get your hopes up too fast.

this reminds me of the congressman gary condit (or should i say "con-did-it") interview the other night.

he denies an affair with two women but the "facts" say otherwise.. below is what the street.com has to say about biopure's announcement.

hillary_step

Maximus,

I think that our mutual friend, who is at the cutting edge of this sort of research ( let the reader use discernment! ) will validate both your own and Marvin's viewpoint. There seems no doubt about it that within the next 2-3 years a viable alternative will be generally available for blood transfusions. I have no doubt that the WTS is hanging on for dear life, praying like an Augustine for this. With careful PR, this would be claimed as yet another victory for WTS policies, then they would only have past, not present failures to contend with.

Biopure, it must be remembered is just one of, if my memory serves me well, three companies who are close to a breakthrough in this field. They are unlikely to give very much away in their press releases that would compromise their position in the race. It is just a matter of time not possibility, that 'artificial' blood will be a reality.

Best to you all - HS

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Being Popular

by Stephanus in

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i know what it is to be popular.

well, to be totally honest, i know what it is to be unpopular, and i know that it feels really bad.

i therefore assume that being popular would feel really good!

hillary_step

Stephanus,

On the topic of popularity/unpopularity with your peers etc., if you get an opportunity, track down a book by William Godwin entitled 'Caleb Williams'. It was written in the C18th and is not an 'easy' read but well worth the personal discovery that comes from it. You will view this whole topic from a new vantage.

My best to you - HS

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ATTN Maximus!!!

by normie67 in

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maximus, .

i would like to start by saying your posts are very informative.

it speaks volumes of one who has seen things from a different perspective(i.e "inside").

hillary_step

Stephanus,

Perhaps there has been a bit of a rush to judgment with the intent of your message but your comment

Okay guys, what you're doing is important and must be kept secret; is it any excuse for being rude and dismissive towards people who simply want to know the truth?

seems to have misunderstood the intent of the message Maximum posted as well. It seems others did not feel his words were 'rude'or 'dismissive' and became a little ired.

Just a misunderstanding, no big deal, lets slap backs and move on.

HS

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ATTN Maximus!!!

by normie67 in

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maximus, .

i would like to start by saying your posts are very informative.

it speaks volumes of one who has seen things from a different perspective(i.e "inside").

hillary_step

Stephanus,

And others with a Maximus shaped curiosity. Nothing can be gained from speculating about this mans identity but much can be lost. Comments such as this :

Of course not! This "we will tell you what is important and you will keep all idle speculation to yourselves" attitude sounds awfully like the attitude of the FDS you're trying to undermine! Okay guys, what you're doing is important and must be kept secret; is it any excuse for being rude and dismissive towards people who simply want to know the truth? Inquiring minds and independent thinkers are bound to ask these questions - would you, like the 'Tower, like to suppress that natural urge?

are not helpful and put Max and people like him who are already in a difficult position under even more pressure. Maximus is not ego driven and I can assure you is anything but rude and dismissive and he has good reason for posting here.

Tina’s words noted above are surely the last that should be heard on this matter.

HS

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How long is a creation day?

by cosmo in

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i've asked quite a few jw's and it seems the answer varies.

some say 1000 years other say 6,000 or 7,000 years.. only one gave me a answer that i found logical.

a creative day has no set amount of time.

hillary_step

Thanks Alan,

I well remember the sigh of relief in the Congregations when the issue was muddied in the '98 Creator book.

I suspect one too many CO's had had their fill of being being humiliated in front of his quivering co-worker by the typical Grade 8 student.

Best to you all - HS

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How long is a creation day?

by cosmo in

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i've asked quite a few jw's and it seems the answer varies.

some say 1000 years other say 6,000 or 7,000 years.. only one gave me a answer that i found logical.

a creative day has no set amount of time.

hillary_step

RunningMan,

Actually the WTS no longer ( since the 1998 'Creator' book ) teaches that the creative days were 7,000 years in duration.

They now teach that these days are 'periods' of indeterminate, and not necessarily equal lengths.

Best regards - HS

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"AHA! AHA! OUR EYE HAS SEEN IT!"

by You Know in

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the question has always been, primarily: is jehovah really god?

secondarily, the question has been: are jehovahs witnesses really jehovahs witnesses?

or, perhaps worded differently: is the watchtower really the voice of christs appointed faithful and discreet slave of prophecy?

hillary_step

Englishman,

Remember though, that in the land of the blind a one-eyed man is king ( Robert King that is..).

HS

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"AHA! AHA! OUR EYE HAS SEEN IT!"

by You Know in

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the question has always been, primarily: is jehovah really god?

secondarily, the question has been: are jehovahs witnesses really jehovahs witnesses?

or, perhaps worded differently: is the watchtower really the voice of christs appointed faithful and discreet slave of prophecy?

hillary_step

Good Morning YK,

My, my, we are in frisky form this morning, anyway thank you for your post and rather tenous prophetic interpretation.

In your personna picture, a man appears with one eye covered. Is this to fulfill the prophecy of your theme heading?

HS - Frisking the frisky.

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Validity of 607 BCE date

by stevieb1 in

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has anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.

i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.

if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?

hillary_step

Scholar,

No tablet, papyrus or relief block has been discovered with the dates BCE dates 586, 587, 606, and 607 written on them and that allude to the fall of Jerusalem, therefore it is on weight of secular evidence that the correct date must be ascertained.

The simple thing to do, especially if you wish to retain your nom-de-plume, is to clearly present your evidence for the 607BCE date for the fall of Jerusalem and allow the evidence for a 586/7BCE date to be presented and then leave viewers to reach their own conclusion without rhetoric or persuasion. That is what scholars do.

It may be news to you that at this moment, even members of the GB are divided on this issue. The line that is being run presently to the R&F is that it is the 'sign' revealed by world affairs that is the ultimate proof 1914 was the date of the enthronement of Christ in heaven as King, you may have noticed that the WTS 'biblical' chronology that led to the 607BCE date is seldom if ever mentioned these days. Check out the date for last attempt by the WT of a defense of the 607BCE date. The WTS denies that it works through outside JW researchers like Furuli and no doubt his book will raise a storm, but it is a storm that the WTS will keep themselves dry from, a rather cunning policy. If Furuli’s book does tip the scales of evidential balance back to 607BCE then the issue will need to be re-examined but as of today the evidence is very clearly against that date.

The theological quagmire that the WTS find themselves in is not difficult to assess, they have repeatedly fallen in to the same pit, led by their blind predecessors. When one starts research with the conclusions already reached, much bending of reality and fact has to take place to sustain those conclusions. After all Scholar, where there is a 1% chance that the WTS is correct in its dating methodology and a 99% chance that it is not, would you build a life on the 1%?

Best regards - HS

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The Informed "Reformer" -- His Mission

by MDS in

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the informed "reformer" -- what he knows, what he wishes to achieve.. the informed "reformer" is a humanitarian.

"victimization" must go.

"tyranny" must go.

hillary_step

Hello MDS,

I have seen a lot of talk on the Board in recent days about a ‘reform’ movement, almost as if their experience within the WTS precludes a person from thinking in terms of groups and organizations. Labels have been made, ready to put in badges, no doubt tea-shirt slogans are on the way - ‘I am a reformer - are you?’

Your oft repeated point in the above note seems to be trying to drive this message home :

The informed "reformer" knows, realizes that Jehovah, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit was never in the picture, really, else all of these terrible things would not have happened to begin with. But the "reformer" may not come out and say such. But insightful, probing questions, reveal his unexplainable actions, efforts and curious motives are actually, more "humanitarian," than spiritual.

You seem to miss an important issue here MDS and that is that those who want to see change within the WTS are well aware that God is not involved in this melee and actually are not remotely interested in this fact anyway, no careful probing required. You quote a paragraph written by myself in a previous note so I feel justified in commenting on your notions.

First and foremost, I have been very careful never to introduce my own theological viewpoints into this issue and also very careful not to use the term ‘reform’ but the word change. I challenge you to deduce from any of my posts that deal with this issue where I stand on the issue of theology. What I have said is that not all that the WTS does is bad and where their shadow crosses Christianity they reap its benefits by default. Many people who are not Christians respect Christianity. Theology is important to the the issue of change only if it helps understand the modus operandi of the WTS and I understand it well. Remember many who are trying to change the WTS into a ‘safe’ religion are atheists or belong to other belief systems. For example AlanF as an atheist ( at least that is what I think he is - we have never taleked belief systems ) with no belief in 'Jehovah God', 'Jesus Christ' of the 'Holy Spirit', Has worked tirelessly for years with an aim to change the WTS more anti-social thinking.

This is the point towards which many are working : to dismantle the theological aspects of the WTS that are dangerous to the well being of others. After this is achieved and my many posts on the subject make it clear how this will likely happen, then I for one will go home and put my feet up!

Though I respect your opinion MDS, IMHO I think that you have slightly missed the point and that those who are working to bring change to the WTS see a much simpler scenario and are very well aware that what is to be done is a mans work and not Gods.

HS

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