today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
That "man" would never use that language against me in my presence.
Of course I would. You have no idea who or what I am. If you think that a snotty nosed kid would intimidate me, you must learn the thumb in the left eye factor.
If he did, I would be sorely tempted to knock sense into him.
Well, you might try, but I fight dirty be warned.... and wear a cricket box...size small should do.
You are a complete joke Burn. Grow up.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Crumpet,
I shall continue to waste my time reading this thread, because I like alovelylively debate.
lol....It always irks me when people, who do little or nothing to improve the lot of their community, criticize organizations like the ICC who are trying their best, often in impossibly difficult circumstances to help those who are suffering miserably and without a voice.
The UN has unfairly been the brunt of neo-con ignorance for many years, and most XJW's carry a contempt for the organization picked up from shallow arguments recalled from the AWAKE! magazine. The UN has great weaknesses, as I have noted, but it is also a vehicle that in its history has proved itself a great benefit to millions of people who have been fed and protected by its Blue Berets.
A very close friend of mine served in Yugoslavia with the UN and one day while driving alone, and unarmed in a UN jeep spotted two Serbians about to gun down a Croat. He stopped his jeep and physically placed himself between their guns and the Croat.... for THREE hours until they backed away. The Irish UN contingent were even more courageous and daily risked their lives in Yugoslavia to protect civilians and bring medicine, food and pyschiatric help to the locals. The Blue Beret needs to be respected in order for these courageous volunteers to have some authority where they are stationed. The sneering, from the safety of an office chair and keyboard, that we see on threads like this is disgusting imo.
Some ICC lawyers have found their names on a hit-list, one has to have twenty-four hour protection, because the criminals that they have in their sights have singled them out for handling.
To sneer and diminish the part that these people are playing to protect the more unfortunate in society is out of order.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
Two fools that cannot have their assumptions challenged.
Yes, I am quite sure that those who read your feeble attempts at ducking for cover on this thread will agree with you, the problem is that the two fools are not the ones that you have in mind.
The one mischaracterizes the argument, and withdraws in a huff.
On the contrary Burn, again those who are foolish enough to waste their time reading this thread will note than in actuality it is yourself who has mischaracterized the argument. It does not take much of a brain to see what you are playing at here. Hamil has done the decent thing and withdrawn from a futile battle, I am anything but decent, as you know.
The other goes into yet another tirade, to the point of calling me a liar, among other things.
Well, you came on this Board as Burn The Ships and wrote in your introductory thread, 'This is my first post....". I later managed to enveigle from you, after much prodding I might add, that in actual fact Burn the Ships was your second identity on this Board. Perhaps I have mischaracterized this lie.
HS, you are fortunate to be an ocean away and posting anonymously, I would be sorely tempted to let you feel my gentle fist otherwise.
Are you threatening me with physical violence kid? Not a terribly good idea I assure you.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Crumpet,
I think individual countries/member states need to retain some kind of autonomy and that this kind of abuse of anti terror laws in the wake of 9/11 to maintain political diplomacy is a violation of human rights in itself. It needs to be challenged.
This is an interesting point.
Despite the futile attempts of some posters on this thread to blacken the name and prospects of the ICC by comparing it to the UN, these organizations have nothing in common either in aims, structure, and methodology. This is by no means accepting that the UN has anything at all to be ashamed of.
The UN is a huge blundering organization that has had its high and low points, failures and successes like any other organization, but it is directly responsible over its lifetime for the saving of millions of lives. William Jacob's book 'The Search For Peace - The Story Of The United Nations' is an excellent documentary of the history of the UN. It differs of course from the WTS and neo-con American view but it, at least, is accurate!
The main problem with the UN is it is so large that it is slow. It reacts too slowly in emergency situations and can be confounded in its aims by rogue members, like Israel and the US and China who in the former pay no attention to UN resolutions and in the latter tend to veto anything that are not in its direct interests.
The ICC has no such issues, because unlike Burn The Ships complete and utter misunderstanding of its methodology, it does NOT rely on a voting consensus to take action. Members cannot disqualify operations against a target the reason being that it is a LEGAL institution set up to deal with LEGAL infringments. Unlike the UN it only deals with laws, not opinions, agendas or huge political obstacles. Both these organizations do a worthy job, and the world is a better place because of them. However, they are very, very different institutions.
I have great faith that in the years ahead the ICC will bring to justice many of the political and military criminals that pepper the world. The US, China, Russia, Cuba and few other countries have abstained from membership. One needs to ask why they would, given the very limited powers that the ICC, unlike the UN, has to interfere a nations politics (not its function) of a nation.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
The comparison being made here has nothing to do with the particular aims of the respective bodies, but with the means of enforcement. You say that if one country misbehaves, others will apply pressure. This is exactly the point I have made. This is not much different from a state of affairs in which no universal body exists.
This is NOT what you said at all! The thread is a matter of public record and readers can judge for themselves just what a liar you can be when you find yourself cornered. The only thing that the ICC and the UN have in common, as I have noted a dozen times, is an international membership. That you are now deviously trying to shift the goal-posts to make yourself look clever is your problem, not mine. If you think others cannot see what you are trying to do, you are living in a fantasy.
But why should I expect you to remember anything that you wrote two minutes beforehand? You have an intellect like a butterfly.
If your posts on this Board are anything to judge you by, you lack substansive character. If you cannot take this criticism from myself, who has pointed this out to you on numerous occasions, try reading other posts directed at you that suggest the same thing, such as JGnat's for example who seems to refuse to debate you due to your penchant for slithering from your own stated positions, and for filling your posts with nothing very much at all in the way of analysis.
Hamil,
Hence, I withdraw from this discussion.
...and who can blame you.
Burn the Ships is without doubt the grossest intellectual pseud to have hit these Boards since its inception. Shallow, vacuous, unregulated in his thinking, contradictory in his viewpoints dependant on the day of the week, undisciplined in his research, without an established moral backbone, a proven liar and above all lacking in critical thinking skills. His coffee-shop opinions vacillate with the sentiment of the you-tube, and Wikipedia hour.
Apart from that, he seems to be really clued in about life.
HS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqza5e4f11c&feature=related
So the Euro is a weapon of mass destruction?
Makes sense.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
James,
I cannot believe that you are both straining the idea of comparison to breaking point to suit a non foundational logic. Why?
As I have noted, numerous times, the only thing these two organizations have in common is that they have an international membership. In every other way, structure, aims, purpose, reason, history, methodology, size, power, and in every other way imaginable, these organizations are completely different.
The Tiger has no teeth. Neither does his distant relative, the little KittyKat.
A absolutely ludicrous, in fact ignorant comment James.
The power exercised by the UN has over its lifetime saved the lives of millions of people. It has kept peace in nations. It has enforced regulations in others. Read about its history, not from the pages of the 'Awake', or from the mouth of a President with a pickled brain, but from unbiased sources.
Though the ICC has been set up with a completely different mandate than the UN, it to has already achieved some of its aims.
Shaking head.....
HS
over the decades musicians rise and fall like a spring wind.
some stay where they should never be, some never are where they should be; such is the roulette of time.
this thread is dedicated to singer songwriters who influence the rest of the best, but are seldom known - 'gamblers in the neon, clinging to guitars...' .
Amicus,
Do you recall Jeremy Spencer? He played a pretty good slide guitar in a few of Mick Fleetwood's early band incarnations. Last time I saw him, decades ago, he had dropped out of the industry in favor of Jesus and was trying to cull me from my youthful ways. At that stage the WTS had already planted its worthless seeds in my heart, so my Jesus was bigger than his Jesus. He then buggered off somewhere abroad for years if I recall, and soon after Peter Green had his breakdown. I think he worked as a trashman for a long while...Peter I mean.
Your Peter Green clip made me put his name into Youtube, and good grief, not only is he alive, but still playing the blues. Good on him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btgwtqHMFE4&feature=related
Anyway, back to songwriters who should be household names. This is Peter F. Sloan. He wrote the song that put Barry MacGuire (who himself later got Jesussed) on the map, "Eve Of Destruction", and numerous other songs covered by big names. Here he is solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnvwh_gbOIU&feature=related
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
It seems to me that they are both organizations claiming universal jurisdiction but without any real power to back it up. Both are dependent on the member states to initate any force that is required to enforce that jurisdiction. Member states act in their own interest and without a higher force to bind them we remain in a Clausewitzian world. To think otherwise is an illusion, IMHO. The subversion of the Iraq Oil for Food program is an example of this. That these states joined the ICC is no more altruistic an action than the ones that did not.
Think about the higher forces binding the UN. It is a real, enforcable and historically enforced power. You seem to have an almost complete ignorance of the long history of the UN, which has its low moments as well as high ones. If one country misbehaves, the other nations will apply presure of numerous sorts to bear. You seem to have swallowed the 'toothless dog' fantasy regarding the UN, which is generally based on ignorance.
The comparisons that you try to draw between the ICC and the UN show that you do not understand the structure, aims, manifesto, and realities of either. The only thing they have in common, as I have already stated a number of times, and which you yourself acknowledge, is its international flavor. the ICC works through local law enforcement, local courts, local lawyers. It does not have an army or warehouses full of grain. It does not need them as its aims are completely different to that of the UN. Its only interest is legality.
What's up Burn, fed up with Wikipedia?
HS
i was late for my clinical at the hospital the am so i was going too quickly with my hands full of books and stethoscopes and assorted bullshit and slipped and fell on the f$%king stairs at the hospital, concrete and steel steps!
why can't they make steps out of pillows and jello?...
worse i was on the last step so instead of just sliding i went out and down... the bottom step hit me right across the top of my back.
mkr,
Did I read this correctly?
Are you training to be a medical professional and yet cannot afford medical insurance? If so, what sad and ironic indictment of your nations priorities.
HS
