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  Were you still a "believer" when you left?

  by pennycandy in

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  i know many of you here left for reasons other than doctrinal.

  lack of love, treated badly, the burden of life as a jw, etc.

  at the time you left (or were kicked out), did you still think it was god's organization, or were you already convinced it wasn't?.

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  hillbilly

  I seem to fit just about everything that Gary said... but my son never bought into the Watchma (new word gang, that's short for "watchtower dogma".)

  Took a while to figure out they were in left feild on some of the theology... but I left cause I was tired of being used... woke up one day and realized I was the guy who always made the phone calls, etc. Never had any true* freinds... it was all a matter of their convienece and my ability to *do* for them or the "cause".

  ---Hill

  * not exactly true..but the one or two I did have are too scared to contact me... bad association I guess.
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  Moral Absolutes??

  by StinkyPantz in

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  in your opinion are there any?

  i say, 'in your opinion' because we all define morality differently.

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  hillbilly

  Never mislead a person for your own gain... (that seems to show up in just about every culture or religion, maybe there is something to it ?)

  Killing another person (unless it's in defense of another life)

  Both of this concepts seem to be a recurring theme in cultures world wide... maybe we are sposed to be wired this way?

  Hill
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  Kingdumb Halls...crying poor. Are they really?

  by kwintestal in

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  for the last 2 1/2 years of my jw experience, the kh was always saying how they had no money to pay the bills.

  they started holding "dollar days" at the meetings to get donations (the idea was everyone brought a dollar a meeting on top of their normal donation).

  finances reportedly got so bad that they had to decide to buy oil for the furnace, or plow the driveway one winter.

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  hillbilly

  Ozzie.... i think we "know" what he means, dear fellow. Techincalities aside, they run a stupid fiscal policy over at the "Kingdom Hall", the locals have little help or control over Brooklyn and Brooklyn whorish ways put the bite on all members. Period.

  All because they try to make their financial collection methods look "more Christ-like" than "money- grubbing" "false- religion (tm).

  Old Joe was right... (his) Religion is a snare and a racket!

  Hill
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  What languages do you speak?

  by Pole in

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  what languages do you speak/write/read (can be ancient ones as well)??

  i speak/write/read polish, english and russian.

  i know basic swedish and some survival phrases in finnish as well.

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  hillbilly

  I speak English and am fluent in several regional dialects of USA english.

  A little pidgeon Spanish, and can still read a little German but not practiced enough to keep up in conversation

  Seems to me, that in Europe, with all those countrys in close proximity, travel and media bleedover being what it is, a person would be hard pressed not to pick up another tounge (or two).

  Hill----------
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  Kingdumb Halls...crying poor. Are they really?

  by kwintestal in

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  for the last 2 1/2 years of my jw experience, the kh was always saying how they had no money to pay the bills.

  they started holding "dollar days" at the meetings to get donations (the idea was everyone brought a dollar a meeting on top of their normal donation).

  finances reportedly got so bad that they had to decide to buy oil for the furnace, or plow the driveway one winter.

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  hillbilly

  It's a combination of many factors... those building cost a lot more than people think......and the "donation" system is more "freewill" than "pledges"

  The Average JW hears phrases like "non-profit" and then gets a little "widows mite" theology in the same day he gets a little confused. Then they bad bad mouth churches for having structured 'donations'. Go figure, the average JW figures that his $2 bucks or whatever will go a long way.

  Running a building for anyones orginization costs bucks. If you joined a conservation and shooting club you would be asked for membership dues.. and any guests would pay for services rendered.. why? Land, equipment, taxes insurance costs all must be met... and at years end after all is paid out not much remains in the pot. Even though the board or the voting members dont take a "profit" you have to pull in more than you spend on legit costs of business.

  In my opinion there would not be anything wrong with asking for "pledges"... it would save many problems.... and it's a lot less tacky than the guilt ridden pan-handling the poor Accounts servant has to do to meet monthly expenses.

  Then, Brooklyn gets their cut... everymonth...... before they got so rabid about a regular cut a congregation would often carry a reserve...

  The average JW doesnt see the "Kingdom Hall" in that light. He is convienced "God" will take care of things. Plus many JW's are on a tight budget at home... then MANY JW's are just plain CHEAP. Or figure the family with the new Suburban or nicer house has TONS of cash and will carry the ball.

  I really got tired of panhandling the electric bill every month while I was on accounts 20 years ago... I can't imagine how that job goes now... Glad I am out.

  Hill
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  Watchtower, What Happened to Famine? (AW 11/8/04)

  by metatron in

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  thirty years ago, the watchtower society was predicting that the world would soon.

  fall apart ( truth book, pg 89).

  in particular, they proclaimed that the world would be overcome.

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  hillbilly

  How the hell would I know....any body wann grab a burger and a beer?

  Hill (keep on farmin class)
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  Watchtower, What Happened to Famine? (AW 11/8/04)

  by metatron in

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  thirty years ago, the watchtower society was predicting that the world would soon.

  fall apart ( truth book, pg 89).

  in particular, they proclaimed that the world would be overcome.

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  hillbilly

  How the hell would I know....any body wann grab a burger and a beer?

  Hill (keep on farmin class)
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  Hey Dub, It's Friday night.........

  by hillbilly in

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  lets grab a beer and chase honeys.... anyone else wanna come with us........????.

  hill ( got freinds in low places class)

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  hillbilly

  Hey Cutie---- ya wanna two-step?

  Hill
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  What's in your glass tonight?

  by bikerchic in

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  so forget hillbillys post...... what's in your glass, mug or can tonight?.

  me, oj and vodka, yeah a screwdriver.

  i wanted a sloscrew but we didn't have the slo so i had to settle for the regular screwdriver.. whatcha drinking?.

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  hillbilly

  Dang Janet ........now I feel bad........ please pass the A-1 sauce please..... this ribeye is a bit dry.

  Hill ( yep, the beef cycle is the most in- efficient way to produce digestable protein for the masses, but it's "oh, so" good class)
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  The lords prayer

  by Tim Horton in

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  Tim Horton's wife---

  you are a bit conficted..how to resolve the Lord's Prayer with the new system (tm)... just remember, what our Lord taught us to pray...(how to pray as a Christian) and the WT versions of heaven and paradise are really not connected.

  "Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as in heaven".......... sorry, no "new system" there.

  Takes a while for the cognitive dissocence to mellow out when you leave the 'tower.

  Hill ( we are all pullin' for you guys)