he was trying to sell obama's seat plus a bunch of other shakedown schemes using his union contacts and control of state funding.
point taken... Emanual is not involved in this seat selling fiasco... but he was the rep from the Northside district and has a "tough guy" enforcer reputation in ward and Ill state politics.
give it a year... this aint gonna be pretty.
(put one of mine in the hospital I'll put one of yours in the mourge is not a theatrical metaphor in Chicago)
Hill
or was i dreamin it?.
heard a bit about this on npr... seems the uaw wont play ball with the congress on this bailout plan and now the whole deal is dead in the water (again).. is there an echo or did i mention 'entitlement" and something about a "poor excuse for a labor union" about the uaw before?.
hill.
beks- I know you have read my other post re labor issues. It's all about value added... and the UAW needs to start thinking that way. They have been resistant to self directed work teams, improved tech in the plants, accepting transfers to other facilities.. and a lot of other stiff necked policies that are rooted to manual methods back to the 20's.
I am all for making $20+ bucks an hour to put a car together... wage costs are the least problem in this situation and not the problem. SOME of the jobs in a plant have that value... others dont. A robotics tech who paid for his college is worth more than a person who screws a part on etc etc etc. $27 bucks an hour to drive a fork lift? How does that compare to a BA holder working 60 hours a week to run the local Denny's for $60 k a year?
I know I really have no sympathy for that fork lift driver who bitches about how bad he has it ... while I climb a pole in his back yard...inches from death... in a blizzard... at night... for $30, and I love my job.
The UAW biggest flaw is that they try to justify wages, conditions and benifits across the board that are way out of wack for a high number of the skill sets in the plants they represent.
Big 3 never reserved cash for legacy costs either... when they were making money they never put any of the profits back to pay for future retirement costs. Sorry but 100% full insurance for life for you and the spouse is EXPENSIVE. I wish I could get that too..most of us cant or dont
UAW press spin always reduces these issues to wages... the rules they need to change are some of the old ideas that were a good idea when the work took a LOT of bodies.
Being a union guy I understand this one thing... my wage is earned for what I can do...what my skills are worth. As long as complicated buildings and equipment machines with a profit margin are built I have a place to earn my money... if that work dries up and all I can find is house wiring (low margin work) I just cant work fast or hard enough to justify my wage... that work is only worth $10 or $15 bucks an hour...
Wal mart pays $8 because the worker only provides his time... sorry jobs like that are just "work"... show up and work..no skills required or learned. That value added thing working the pay scale ....
Hill
or was i dreamin it?.
heard a bit about this on npr... seems the uaw wont play ball with the congress on this bailout plan and now the whole deal is dead in the water (again).. is there an echo or did i mention 'entitlement" and something about a "poor excuse for a labor union" about the uaw before?.
hill.
seems Bush is willing to step in on behalf of the UAW in this mess.
Better or not... American car productions keeps the bull dog fed in a lot of North American homes.... EVERYbody needs to get their heads outta the sand on this one.
Hill
or was i dreamin it?.
heard a bit about this on npr... seems the uaw wont play ball with the congress on this bailout plan and now the whole deal is dead in the water (again).. is there an echo or did i mention 'entitlement" and something about a "poor excuse for a labor union" about the uaw before?.
hill.
or was I dreamin it?
Heard a bit about this on NPR... seems the UAW wont play ball with the congress on this bailout plan and now the whole deal is dead in the water (again).
Is there an echo or did I mention 'entitlement" and something about a "poor excuse for a labor union" about the UAW before?
Hill
he was trying to sell obama's seat plus a bunch of other shakedown schemes using his union contacts and control of state funding.
I wonder how Obama would sound speaking through the little cutout in the glass parition?
We never got to hear Bill Clinton speak through one of those yet have we?
Hill
there is an expression "phoning it in" and that pretty much sums up the way watchtower leadership looks to me across the past several .
years.
the first clue i got was when they didn't bother to start any witch hunt against obvious 'apostate' problems in the organization.
It's hard to be lean, mean, dynamic and shift pardigms if your asleep and need to change your adult diaper.
tapioca anyone?
Hill
he was trying to sell obama's seat plus a bunch of other shakedown schemes using his union contacts and control of state funding.
Obama gives a nice speach 6o9. Nice words indeed.
I bet he's says "I invoke the 5th Amendment to protect my rights" real pretty with than silky baritone voice of his.
We dont need that... I really really hope Obama has genuine bona fide distance from this Illinois corruption. I really do.
Hill
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/supreme_court_overturns_bush_v.
gore will serve as commander in chief from dec. 10 to jan. 20. .
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too bad it's not true.
According to the Obama- bots and good liberal Dem like ALGORE should be able to clean up this current mess before Jan 20 if he had a shot at it. 20 or 30 days of Al Gore... no sweat! Obama could finish the mop up and move right on into the main event. I wonder if Obama will pull some strings and get Gov B a nice room with a tennis court at the big house?
Maybe Al could ge Mike Moore to play a short set as VP?
Hill
so, my jw wife and i are having breakfast at our favorite restaraunt this morning and i mention that my workplace has a food bank to help homeless and needy families with meals.
our waitress cuts in and says she has some food that she would like to donate and asked if i could take them for her.
i agreed.
SACOLTON....get YOUR LONG JOHNS OUT...Gary England says it gonna be winter the next few days and he is always right.
I guess thats one of the big glaring reasons I stopped the JW thing....NO SOCIAL CONCIENCE.
Raised around many Catholics I was always aware of the contrast... They are long way from perfect the church encourages social responsibility.
Hill
as a complete christmas newbie, i'm looking for advice on the selection, decorating, care for, and disposal of a christmas tree.
i plan on having the first one in my life this year.
i want to buy a real tree (for the scent, and the authenticity of it).
you are getting way too much advise here....keep it simple
2 liter green soda pop bottle
Red ribbons
Green ribbons
Candle
Tape
Peel label from bottle (or dont... )
Tape ribbons to neck of bottle... use as much ribbon as you have or as littl as you like. You can spiral the ribbons around the bottle or let em hang straight... It's YOUR Cristmas tree, dammit!
Insert candle in opening... If you care to light the candle keep in mind the hazzards that come with open flames near combustable materials.
i though this might help... plus it's conservation at it's best
Hill
