the new light (tm) is on jw.org.
not had time to digest it but it's looking pretty much whathas been divulged already.
looking forward to seeing the responses from the forum and the brothers and sisters now it's in the open.
Ok, so the WT/GB are saying that two appointments take place.
1. The master, Jesus, appointed the FDS over 'his domestics' in 1919 (verse 45).
2. Jesus will appoint the FDS 'over all his belongings" (all Kingdom interests) during the great tribulation (verse 47).
In summary... 'his domestics' and 'his belongings' are not part of the same thing and that the two appointments take place several years apart.
So are we to conclude that 'his domestics' are not also 'his belongings' ???
i have been invited to share it on radio.on healing exjws by agustin astacio.
those who pray,please do it for me those who dont send good vibes,please.
those who dont like me stay in bed.... dont get up.....
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hell is pretty much out of vogue these days so if this rabid atheist decidedly turns his back on god and/or christ what will become of me?.
Yes a severe penalty. John 8: 23 & 24(NWT)
23 So he went on to say to them: “Y OU are from the realms below; I am from the realms above. Y OU are from this world; I am not from this world. 24 Therefore I said to YOU , Y OU will die in YOUR sins. For if YOU do not believe that I am [he], YOU will die in YOUR sins.”
i can't believe it.
probably haven't been out long enough to know they lie like this.
now i just heard it with my own ears.
i have been lurking for a couple of months and decided to join because i wanted to get further information.. i am not a jw, ex jw, or even considering becoming a jw.
i am a fairly devout, practicing catholic.
two weeks ago, a couple of jw publishers stopped by to discuss their schtick.
WT teachings are that the Kingdom of God aka Kingdom of the Heavens is simply a Government. It is ruled by Jesus Christ and the 144,000.
Matthew 25:31 - 46 - Speaks of the all the nations gathered before Jesus they are then separated into sheep from the goats. The sheep enter the Kingdom and the Goats everlasting cutting off.
You are either a sheep or a goat and there are only two destinations... the Kingdom or Everlasting cutting off.
Sounds like the Kingdom is more than just a government, unless of course when Jesus returns to judge there will only be 144,000 faithful ones!!!
Also the evildoer who was executed with Jesus asked Jesus to remember him when he (Jesus) when into his Kingdom. Jesus responded that you will be with me in paradise. Again, appears the Kingdom and Paradise are one of the same. Luke 23: 42-43.
Jesus taught that you MUST be born again in order SEE or ENTER the Kingdom of God - John 3: 5 and 7. The WT teach that only the 144,000 enter the Kingdom, therefore, they are the only ones who need to be born again.
The Bible teaches that Paradise is part of the Kingdom; everlasting life is part of the Kingdom, therefore, an entry requirement is being Born again.
The WT teachings on the Kingdom are wrong and destructive therefore will result in many not entering the kingdom. Reminds me of the what Jesus said to the Pharisees... that they shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men, since you do not enter yourself - Matthew 23:13
the view held by christian theology is that god did not create evil.
you may argue this point using scripture to support either side.
however that argument is but a symptom of a much larger problem which is choice and free will.. the concept among christians is that sin, suffering, and evil deeds began with the original sin.
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'Free will' could of have restrictions placed on it. e.g. Your 'free will' cannot be used to deliberately harm others. After all we all have physical limitations (restrictions), e.g. can't fly unaided; can't survive under water unaided; can't predict next week's winning lottery numbers, etc. So why not 'free will' restrictions?
Will perfect man still have 'free will' in paradise? If so, there is potential for some rouge to start causing harm to others!
BTW is this 'free will' thing explicitly taught in the bible?
the view held by christian theology is that god did not create evil.
you may argue this point using scripture to support either side.
however that argument is but a symptom of a much larger problem which is choice and free will.. the concept among christians is that sin, suffering, and evil deeds began with the original sin.
This free will thing has really got me thinking over the past few months.
Why should the ability to carry out ones free will impact the free will of somebody else. e.g. My free will (choice) might be train hard and become a top athelite. However, somebody might use their free will to knee cap me with an AK47 assult riffle and disable me. Now how do I exercise my free will?
the view held by christian theology is that god did not create evil.
you may argue this point using scripture to support either side.
however that argument is but a symptom of a much larger problem which is choice and free will.. the concept among christians is that sin, suffering, and evil deeds began with the original sin.
Genesis 2:9 : Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.
Question: who planted the tree of the knowledge of good and bad?
It almost appears that an opportunity to commit bad (evil) was made available.
Just some thoughts
well, folks, this little mermaid just got back from the sad she had to attend w/her husband so as to keep a measure of peace (we're in the process of working out compromises...you know how it goes) i was pretty mad by the end of the day (thank god it ended at 4:00) mostly because i learned some new things that i would never have guessed in a million years.. did you know that satan is setting up artificial "refuges" as a counterfeit to jehovah's "true refuge"which is...his organization???
now satan's "false refuges" are pretty damn bad, like, for instance, "independent thinking.
" no, siree bob, we don't want none of that!!
In the UK, HLC members are actually going into University Teaching Hospitals and delivering as part of the under-graduate syllabus a module on non-blood management. I was in total shock when I heard this. The GB actually sanctioning JWs to deliver lectures in the very institutions which they condemn!!
in hired/rented arenas/stadiums who does 'administration' always use the executive boxes/suites?.
- Them and Us.
- All brothers are equal but some are more equal than others
- First among equals
