Posts by leavingwt

"Placebos have been shown to work in about 30 percent of patients, and they've been used by doctors for ages. In fact, they were often the only thing that a doctor could offer to relieve suffering, other than his or her attention and support. Some researchers believe that placebos simply evoke a psychological response. The act of taking them gives you an improved sense of well-being. However, recent research indicates that placebos may also bring about a physical response."

http://health.howstuffworks.com/medicine/medication/placebo-effect.htm

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Does prayer have any effect?

by The Quiet One in

leavingwt

If you Google 'placebo effect', you will quickly learn how powerful our minds are.

In the words of George Costanza, "It's not a lie. . . if you believe it."

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Post Good Music, Any Genre

by leavingwt in

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i hope everyone is having a great saturday night (or sunday morning).. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tge2n3nke.

leavingwt

Welcome, neverscreamagain!

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Post Good Music, Any Genre

by leavingwt in

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i hope everyone is having a great saturday night (or sunday morning).. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tge2n3nke.

leavingwt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LloIp0HMJjc&ob=av2e

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

leavingwt

If there is no God then abiogenesis is the way we got here. What is the difference between you accepting abiogenesis and your former master's invisible return of Jesus?

I've never viewed it as a choice between God and abiogenesis. I'm not very familiar with abiogenesis, but I seem to recall it's one theory. I'm of those people who has accepted he will go to his grave not having the answers to many (seemingly) important questions. You could say I belong to the Church of I Don't Know.

We're happy to have you, here. I'm afraid I've taken this conversation off the topic of the OP. I'll see you on some of the other threads.

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Greetings and best wishes: Introduction of Mediator007

by mediator007 in

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i thought i should introduce myself as i have been reading your various threads.

leavingwt

I have read both of Ray Franz’s books from cover to cover and although not agreeing with all that he wrote I am very impressed with his lack of neither being bitter nor being judgmental. He certainly gives a person a great inside view of the GB and how the organization really works.

Welcome!

Have you also read Steve Hassan's first book? If not, you may enjoy it. You'll learn why so many of your JW associates don't question any of the teachings and rules.

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If one were to shun and ignore Witnesses does that make one just as bad as them?

by ThomasCovenant in

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for all the criticism of jehovah's witnesses' shunning policy, if one (an ex jw) were to deliberately avoid contact with witnesses and, dare i say, shun them, does that mean that one is just as bad?.

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leavingwt

Mandatory, institutionalized shunning for trivial offenses is what most people object to.

We have the freedom to shun anyone we choose. It is sometime essential, for our own safety.