im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.
i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.
i was very respectful.
Why the urgency to preach?
Just like you were 'wrong' about God when you were a JW, you could be 'wrong' right now. Right?
Why not take a little time (years) to sort things out. The world is a big place, with many competing ideas. You're not expected to have it all figured out.
Focus on your family. Worry about "religion" and preaching later. You only get one shot at some of this.
im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.
i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.
i was very respectful.
Matthew 10:34, 35
It's right there in the book. Choosing the Lord may mean losing your family. Jesus did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
my ex bil (who is df'd for 3+ years) sent me this message saturday night:.
"...it is with a sad heart i write this.
after seeing your post concerning celebrating halloween and running into christi and her telling me that you guys were celebrating christmas with a tree and everything ... along with other postings you have made and testimony from others it is apparent you have chosen the path of apostasy.... i write this wishing that wasn't so but the fact is the fact... i wish you and your family the best in this system but i can not associate or be friends with you anymore... i am chosing to be on jehovah's and his organization's side... thanks for the friendship thru the years and may you enjoy the time left in this system... :'(".
The mentally captive love to get on their high horse. They earn more treasure in Heaven.
Sorry, man.
im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.
i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.
i was very respectful.
You're sending this message: my new church is more important than my marriage.
Remember: Ray Franz didn't attend church. Have you already found the next true religion?
Chill the _____ out. A year from now this new church will seem like nonsense. This is not a race. There is no Armageddon.
You're about to find yourself separated fom your wife and kid, without a roof over your head. You'll also need money for an attorney.
We're trying to protect you fom yourself. We've seen this movie 100 times, but you won't believe us.
There is no reward for taking a stand against WT. It's all a net loss. Start worrying about yourself and stop worrying about what invisible people think.
im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.
i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.
i was very respectful.
You're allowing the cult to control the timing of your excommunication. It doesn't have to be this way.
im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.
i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.
i was very respectful.
Prepare to be disfellowshipped.
im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.
i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.
i was very respectful.
so one of the things both me and my wife are faced with is breaking the news that we've stopped going to meetings to our parents.
my wifes parents could go either way, they have made several critical remarks of the wt over the years, while my parents are die hard jw's.
i tossed the idea around of sending a letter or doing a phone call or just not saying anything.. we've decided that were just tired of having to hide our true feelings and play pretend.
"All we are thinking of saying is that we no longer believe the WT corporations teachings"
I feel the need to provide you with an additional warning. What you've written above sounds harmless enough -- to those of us on the inside, mentally. Please understand that this one, simple sentence is a huge effing deal to loyal JWs. This is worse than discussing doctrine. This is the entire enchilada. This is the nuclear option. In this one sentence, you officially become an Apostate. They have been indoctrinated for years how to react to apostasy. You will trigger a reflexive response, and it will not be pleasant.
Please make sure that your wife understands this.
i keep crossing paths with people who are in recovery, that is, recovering from drug and alcohol addiction.
these folks regularly attend alcoholics anonymous and narcotics anonymous meetings and are all somewhere in the process of working the 12 steps of recovery.
the organization denies affiliation with any legal entity; a blatant deception, a lie they tell new ones and each other at each and every meeting.
Who is Bill W?
so one of the things both me and my wife are faced with is breaking the news that we've stopped going to meetings to our parents.
my wifes parents could go either way, they have made several critical remarks of the wt over the years, while my parents are die hard jw's.
i tossed the idea around of sending a letter or doing a phone call or just not saying anything.. we've decided that were just tired of having to hide our true feelings and play pretend.
I should have elaborated.
- they will view it as an attack upon them
- they will be forced to shun you and think of you as an apostate
- you can kiss any inheritance good-bye
- you'll be unable to have interactions with them, so as to enlighten them, because the well will have been poisoned
Silence/"discouraged"/"stumbled" won't bring these negative consequences, in many cases.
You can maintain the benefit of the doubt by keeping the truth to yourself. By telling them you don't believe, you switch off their minds, allowing them to dismiss you.
