Posts by Hmmm

All the JWs that were deactivated (I think the total is only three) were deactivated because their sole purpose was to disrupt the board. One had half a dozen identities, tried to get people to donate to what was most likely a fraudulant 9/11 charity, and even created a fake identity pretending to be a victim of molestation. It is clear that Simon only deactivated the accounts that were created to disrupt, and he even let them start posting again if they would stick to one account... but they didn't.

On the other hand, you've got people like YouKnow. Have you read this guy's stuff? He has predicted the end to come in October every year since Ford was President! At the Kingdom Hall, he wouldn't be allowed to share ANY of his ideas. He is an ultra-loyal JW, but I'll bet if you ran a JW board, you would have deactivated him years ago for "apostate" thoughts. He gets insulted, but he gives as good as he gets.

Also, there was a group of ex-JWs who left a few months ago because they felt Simon was being unfair to them. Heck, I watched the Stanley Cup playoffs last week and I thought my beloved Red Wings were getting jobbed by the referees. I talked to a friend in Colorado who was equally convinced that the refs were in the employ of Detroit boosters.

Does Simon allow himself to be influenced by the "home team" from time to time? Probably. It would be impossible not to. But I think he's as fair as an imperfect man can be, and far more fair than a JW moderator would be to an ex-JW visiting their board.

You sound like you've been around a while. Can you give any names of JWs who were kicked off for speaking freely?

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Lurker....wants expert assistance (question)

by refiners fire in

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i got a couple of lurkers emailing to me at the moment!.

anyway.... one of them has a question and we need the input of a boffin like alan f, or jt.. elderly lady, just got df,after 40 years of service, wants to know, now shes df, will the org still take her money that shes bequeathed to them in her will.?.

does she need to change her will to prevent the org from gettings its clammy claws on her bucks.?.

Hmmm

They won't take your testimony in a judicial case, but they'll take your money without batting an eye.

PS Take $13 of that estate and buy Crisis of Conscience. It'll be the best money you ever spent.

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Will the Wt Split?

by Satanus in

based on the pressure that is building both within the rank and file and in the top management, i was wondering about the possibility of the wt fracturing into 2 groups: fundamentalist and liberal.

the gb has recently taken a back seat to 3 new corporations.

these were added to the multitude of corps they already have.

Hmmm

I agree with one.

The WT has enough experience with small groups trying to split off that I'm sure they've got legal back doors prepared in case anyone gets any fancy ideas.

Just my gut feeling

Hmmm

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Time for Silentlambs to address blood issue?

by Pathofthorns in

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i just wanted to say that perhaps now is a good time for the silentlambs group to add a fight against the society's blood policy to their agenda.

i think the society's latest actions in response to their pressure could be considered a reasonable victory and unless the attack is broadened to include child abuse and blood, i think their 15 minutes could be up.. i see the molestation issue and the respect gained in media circles for the silentlambs group providing a "limited time" opportunity to use this issue as a springboard to launch another offensive.. the society's recent actions regarding child molestation make the issue increasingly difficult to convince the public and active jws of the need for future major changes to their policy.

valuable time spent on the issue of molestation and trying to force the society to bend on the last few remaining "demands" while probably hundreds of witnesses die each year due to lack of blood might be better focused in another direction.. i think the common understanding that witnesses should be able to personally decide their healthcare without influence and threat of sanctions or reprisals from the congregation will be much easier to form a more united effort against the society.

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Path,

Once again you assume that Bill has an AGENDA outside of protecting children. How do you know he even disagrees with the Society's stance on blood?

As has been pointed out to you before this thread, it would be counterproductive to split energy and resources. Just how much time do you think he has?

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Just Saw StarWars Episode II

by Reborn2002 in

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only one word is sufficient to describe this film =.

it is not religious persecution for an informed person to expose publicly a certain religion as being false, thus allowing persons to see the difference between false religion and true religion.

wt 11/15/1963 page 688 paragraph 3

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Of course, there is also the amateur film critics who like picking apart the acting, dialog, etc.

Oh god forbid we should want acting and dialog in a movie!

"I don't like sand. It's grainy, and coarse, and gets in your shoes, with grains between 0.06 and 2.0 millimeters in diameter... not like you... but both do consist of verying degrees of silicates--"

"I get the point, Anni"

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This Board and JWs

by comforter in

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at one time, this board seemed to be fair.

but i no longer think that it is, to jws, at least.

ex-jws here can cuss, insult, say fu to everybody they don't like, and call jws pedophiles.

Hmmm

Comforter,

Sorry, you uh... reminded me of another poster. My mistake.

Thanks for the response, but if you were going to respond to my post, I kinda wish you would have responded to the first one.

Hmmm

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The Sum of All Fears

by patio34 in

has anyone had a chance to see this yet?

i give it a top rating and enjoyed it very much.

it's not getting rave reviews, but my friend and i really thought it was good!.

Hmmm

Minor to Moderate Spoilers. Skip this post if you don't want to know what happens in the movie.
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Six,

They really screwed up the continuity by setting it in 2002. The story was originally set during the height of the Cold War. I think the reactions of the two leaders would be much more believable during the 80s, but not now.

This also fouls up the whole romance. How can Ryan be in his late 30s, and be married with children in the 80s (Patriot Games), then be in his mid 30s and just wooing his wife in 2002?

And in Clear And Present Danger, which happens in the mid-to-late 90s, Ryan meets John Clark. Then in Sum of All Fears, in 2002, he's meeting the guy for the first time.

As for him being the one to figure it all out. Well he is an expert on Russia and its leaders. He is also pretty darn low in the chain of cammand, so even when Cabbot (Morgan Freeman) is out of action, the US command circle wouldn't listen to a junior analyst who had already seemingly made a big boo-boo.

Just my take

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This Board and JWs

by comforter in

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at one time, this board seemed to be fair.

but i no longer think that it is, to jws, at least.

ex-jws here can cuss, insult, say fu to everybody they don't like, and call jws pedophiles.

Hmmm

Duns,

But I don't care what others do.

Then why even start the thread?