having read some of the posts in the military tribunal thread make me wonder about the perspective of the american population in general.
it seems to be more egocentric then ever.
the understandable outrage and indignation caused by the despicable and horrible acts on 9/11 seem to have caused little or no global perspective.
Norm,
You asked:
> "How many more innocent civilians will have to die before those who have the power to deal with the causes act?" <
In my opinion they have acted, the only way to stop a movement like the Taliban terrorists is just what the US is doing.
HCM
i dont go to meetings anymore!
.....big breakthrough for me !.
i have tryed the slow fade but that just seems to make my wife think that i am going to go to every meeting......so i have decided to go cold turkey , and it is hard .
NWS, > (if I may)
After resigning as an elder I went to two more meetings then the last memorial I'll ever go to.
For me that was a slow fade. It's been a year now and the control they have is still felt ,in my case, only because of some friends, also on their way out that I would like to stay in contact with. My ex wife did that to me years ago, left the org. cold turkey, it was difficult for me. As I think back now, she was smarter than I gave her credit for. And yes you are missing something, many things out there that are not controlled by Satan as the WT claims. A whole new world, if you look for the good things out there you will find them.
HCM
here iz mine:.
#1) "a cancer of the soul".
#2) "a fools paradise".
The New York Teliban, and their Al Qeada Network
celebrate your past.
it is the foundation for your dreams and goals in the future.
flexibility and adaptability are key.
Solong for now MrMoe.
HCM
just noticed the thread with the lady sporting a panama so i thought it might be as well to reconsider hatiquette...er hat etiquette wts style............ *** w52 4/15 254-5 questions from readers ***.
questions from readers.
 is it proper for men to tip their hats to women?g.
Can't you just picture some wormy little dub writer shit dreaming this bull crap up? Then the enforcement El-Queda network (elders) having a field day with their new found ,although false, sense of authority forming tribunals. The WT is a hateful organization ,rules, rules, rules that's all they know.
It's nice to know they have and always will make me sick.
HCM
i've narrowed it down to three choices:.
bonnie raitt singing..... "that summer night in texas, baby.
too hot and wet to sleep.
Chris Issac's "Wicked Games" with the beach video is one of the best for setting the right mood.
HCM
have you worn a suit since you left the org of jehovahs witnesses?.
i havent.
what am i going to do with all my shirts ties and suits ?
Sleepy,
Yes I have worn a suit, I cut the ass cheeks out and parade around town offering the Watchtower and awake.
HCM
i thought that would get your attention.. i dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.. i am out a good while now.
long enough to stop getting hellos on the street.
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.. i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide.
josephus,
I get angry also over the WT ways so I can understand how you feel. May I recommend saving your hostility in case they go on the offensive first. Why waste your energy, they won't listen to any thing you say anyway.
Hope this helps.
HCM
i cannot forget this little girl.. ezekiel 34:12 this is what the sovereign lord says: i am against the shepherds and will hold them accountable for my flock.
i will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves.
i will rescue my flock from their mouths, and it will no longer be food for them".
Bridgette,
Well expressed.
>>"And in calling for justice, I call for the those responsible for the teachings that aided, abetted, and assisted these parents to feel justified for every life destroying blow they administered to this child. YOU are called to, no you are cursed to feel with the humanness and decency of your heart (for I still believe it exists there), the remorse, the weight, the culpability before your god for absolute MIND and SOUL rape you have perpetrated or allowed to be perpetrated against the humans you have entrusted yourself with—especially the little ones. Only when you FEEL these--- Truly FEEL them, will you know peace in this life, or the next."<<
I'm afraid the WT, aka (NY Teliban), will not listen, acnowledge or change their ways. Remember they claim to speak for god and that is all that matters , looking good to outsiders.
HCM
i just read the tragic story of the man in chicago who beat his daughter to death.
i have read stories here and on silentlambs about sexual abuse.. my question is: how much fault can be placed on the religion and how much on the perversions of a particular individual?
i frankly don't know the answer to this question.
larc,
Sexual abuse of children will happen in all levels of society, whether religious or not. A deviant is a deviant no matter what they profess, Witnesses included. Physical abuse is a different story, although I believe there are similar propensities to cause harm, there is no apparent sexual drive with the child beater, although the two traits can be exhibited at the same time in some individuals.
What can develop in Witness households is a rift between parents and children, particularly between fathers and sons but also daughters and spouses, where the performance of the parent is rated by the conduct of the children. The more in line, robot like, the children are the less the pressure for conformance to look good to the elders so one can move up in stature in the organization. It all goes awry when things look bad and the children can suffer enormous pressure. Beatings can be one consequence of a system bent on appearances to look spiritual in the eyes of god, with the human leaders interpreting the rules to their liking. It's a slow simmer situation, with some individuals more prone than others to snap and cause harm.
HCM
