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  contacting df'd ones?

  by nanoo in

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  hi there.

  i would like to know what the policy is regarding contacting and spending time with disfellowshipped ones.. have there been any changes?.

  nan

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  HoChiMin

  nanoo,

  Welcome. You seem to have the right idea as to your family and the average JW thinking.

  > "I forgave them many years ago - I don't bear a grudge cuz I appreciate why they do what they do but I feel sad that they are so controlled. And I feel sad that when they do come calling they are smiling on the outside but thinking I am dirt on the inside (as if I didn't know!). "<

  Forgiving them for the WT arrogance they show is not always an easy task. Many families are destroyed because of it. As far as there being a change in policy towards df'd ones, not recently between r&f members.

  HCM
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  Victims Quiet Pain - Why the WTS hides Pedophiles

  by Amazing in

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  what is for the good of victims?

  in borrowing some language from pathoforms, we can ask the following: is mandatory reporting of these allegations to the authorities respecting a victim's right to their dignity?

  what if they feel too embarrassed over what happened or if it is their desire "not to testify" in court?

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  Amazing,
  This is so true.

  >"They would write a Watchtower article to ALL JWs and not just for the Elders eyes in BOE letters ... and tell the JWs to get the police, the courts, child services, and other agencies involved ..."<

  If they only acted like the big org. was a loving father and really protected their flock they would do just as stated above. But nnnoooooooo they look out for their own financial ass, and cover up the crimes.

  DO YOU HEAR THAT WATCHTOWER?

  HCM
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  Classless American Behavior

  by Pathofthorns in

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  i was watching the hockey game yesterday and i thought i heard 'booing' during canada's national anthem.

  earlier in the week the same thing occurred during the raptor's playoff game.. as some are aware canada has been mourning and burying their 4 dead soldiers due to the incompetence of an american fighter pilot who dropped a bomb on them while they were carrying out training exercises.

  flags are flying at half-mast as canadians try to make sense of such a careless mistake.. i find it hard to believe any civilized person would show such disrespect to another country to 'boo' them during their national anthem at any time, and more so during a time of mourning because of death caused directly by american hands.. i sincerely hope american media chastised their countrymen who showed such insensitive, classless, ignorant and disrespectful behavior to their neighbours.

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  Pathofthorns,

  Did you ever think it could an adolescent male hockey fan that never reads the news paper or watches the television news? There are many such individuals in the sports world, to lump all of the inhabitants of a country into one category because of it is stretching a bit. Don't you think?

  HCM
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  Earthquake

  by Celia in

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  earthquake in the northeast

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  the end must be near.. everything shook in the house for 5 to 10 seconds, shortly before 7 this morning...

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  I felt the rumble and thought it was someone jumping on my second floor. Some friends of mine in VT thought the house was going to come down.

  HCM
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  Colorgenics

  by peaceloveharmony in

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  click the link :).

  http://colorgenics.com/.

  a good friend is someone who will come and bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was f**king awesome.

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  This is what it told me, UFB!

  You are longing for some love and affection at this time - not that you have been deprived of tender loving care - but there are times when everyone needs to try something new or to go 'somewhere' else to perhaps experience that little extra 'understanding'.

  You are a true extrovert, frivolous and outgoing. You need to feel in control of any situation. If matters are not proceeding according to plan you tend to get extremely irritable and perhaps become difficult to live with.

  Compromise is the name of the game at this time and it is the only way you can avoid being deprived of the love and affection you so rightly deserve -so soften up a little, be flexible.

  You are presently experiencing excessive stress as a result of self-restraint. You act and think differently from the common herd and you want to be liked and admired for yourself and to associate with people who feel and act as you do. Because of this need to be self-reliant and to break away from mediocrity, you are finding this situation most uncomfortable and you are experiencing considerable anxiety - perhaps even more than you feel the capacity to cope with. You need to find a 'soul mate', someone whose standards are as high as your own - but where? Keep on searching... The situation is uncomfortable and you would like to break away from it, but you refuse to compromise with your opinions. You are unable to resolve the situation because you are continually postponing the making of necessary decisions. You are stubborn but this is no deterrent to a happy life, so why drop your standards. Think positively, everything will work out. It has worked out successfully for you in the past and it will again in the future.

  Trying to cope with conditions which you think are beyond your capabilities has led to considerable anxiety and stress. You now feel that you are not capable of coping with this situation and indeed any situation which could arise from what you consider to be your personal inadequacy.

  HCM
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  judged for not ostrisizing?

  by blindfool in

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  ok, i'm getting a little lazy here.

  i glanced at a couple of jw books on the issue, but i know you guys can answer, so i'm going straight to the experts.. what happens if a good witness refuses to ostracize a df'd member.

  i know an elder might approach and question their actions, but would a judicial committee ever be formed to stop a person from associating with a df'd witness?.

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  Dear blindfool,

  You would be counseled if to much association, with a df'd relative, were noticed by the spies in your congregation. Generally you would not have much problem for having lunch with a daughter, however if you are completely honest with them, and it is not for "important family matters" you could be df'd . A lot depends on the mood of the body of elders and the congregation at any given time of the alleged offense.

  It's a shame a question as to family relations comes up at all. No religion should be able to dictate what happens between family members, it's very divisive and harmful to families. Remember the WT does "not" speak for any god.

  HCM
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  Caring for the flock. Questions for elders.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

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  i have been following mulans thread regarding her mothers living situation and the harassment of the elders from her congregation.

  the poor woman is in her 90s and in poor health.

  mulan had to call patterson to have something done to stop it.. .

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  BG,

  "What did YOU do in such situations? "
  Same as anyone else, if they were enjoyable people to be around I would visit them. If they were nit picking pains in the ass they got less attention. That may sound cold to some but it's just human nature to avoid pains in the ass.
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  "Were you ever derelict in your duties in caring for the flock?"
  Yes, sometimes I just didn't give a F**k.
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  " Especially when it came to elderly members that weren't performing anymore?"
  See above.
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  "Did you make sure to visit them on a regular basis just because it was your Christian duty?"
  Most visits were because of peer pressure from other elders, from a list of assignments, it was like drudgery to perform this empty unfeeling duty.
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  " Or were they pretty much ignored by you?"
  Yes, pretty much ignored.
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  Now I'm starting to become more caring as I meet new people (non witnesses) and develop real ties to them by getting to know them and because of mutual appreciation, rather than a forced sense of obligation.

  HCM
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  Treating Acused Pedophiles

  by kheli in

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  i thought this article about treating accused priests was interesting.. http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/sexabuse/related/040302_treatment.htm

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  jamaica,

  Welcome, and I can see your point! ( or should I say muzzle) lol

  HCM
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  Implanted Computer ID Chip gets FDA Approval

  by VirgoDragon in

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  http://www.chron.com/cs/cda/story.hts/business/1344763 .

  washington-- a company plans to begin selling a computer id chip that can be embedded beneath people's skin, now that the food and drug administration has said it will not regulate the implant as long as it contains no medical data.

  applied digital solutions inc. designed the verichip -- about the size of a grain of rice -- to hold information that could be read with special electronic scanners.

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  HoChiMin

  The implanted devices are not new technology as far as data transfer and storage go. What is on the more recent side is the implantation of it into humans. These tiny rice sized implants are most likely circuits that derive power from the reader/scanner via radio transmission, the implanted chip has a tank circuit that will charge and power a small transmitter back to the scanner with the data included it the transmission. Proximity cards do the same thing without any physical contact. In the US, Mobil Oil has a "speed pass", when you buy gasoline, to give you a good example of such a device.

  Does this technology mean it has a place in some prophecy written long ago? Who knows. (lol)
  I personally don't think so, and would not put any credence in what the WT says either .

  HCM
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  A *MUST WATCH* Short Film

  by AvailableLight in

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  for everyone w/ high-speed connections:.

  check this out:.

  http://64.152.216.82:80/7/1275/6955/3c8cf24a/rshort.download.akamai.com/1589/windows/t/the_parlor_l_dsl.wmv.

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  HoChiMin

  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  Oh the evil internet! Maybe the wt is correct? NOT. It's just like being in the big city little boys and girls. Welcome to the real world.

  HCM