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  YOU KNOW says "IT's A CONSCIENCE MATTER"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday i asked you know and yardif why they frequent these apostate sites.i asked this question: "how do you justify coming on these boards?".

  you know's answer:"the way i understand it, it is a conscience matter.

  " when i asked whether he was serious, he replied:"i am serious".when i asked him for further clarification, he suddenly vanished from the conversation.

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  HoChiMin

  Yadirf;

  I correspond with Brooklyn, with information that I feel will benefit the Organization; I anticipate changes to be forthcoming in fulfillment of Daniel 11:35; etc.

  I generally do not bother with WT adhearants such as yourself however, do you have any idea what the WT service dept. thinks of people who write in as you state above? I have seen first hand, and they are bothered by it to say the least. "Soundnes of mind" is a phrase that will be used for those that bother to continously write in, no matter what their standing or position in the WT religion. That is if they are favorable in what they write. "Disgruntled" is a term used for even the slightest hint of nonconformance detected in the tone of any letter.

  So you have given us a look at how you may be viewed by the WT.

  Happy Writing!

  HCM
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  YOU KNOW says "IT's A CONSCIENCE MATTER"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday i asked you know and yardif why they frequent these apostate sites.i asked this question: "how do you justify coming on these boards?".

  you know's answer:"the way i understand it, it is a conscience matter.

  " when i asked whether he was serious, he replied:"i am serious".when i asked him for further clarification, he suddenly vanished from the conversation.

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  HoChiMin

  ThiChi;

  The WT and the local congregations certainly do discourage the net. Without a doubt, I'm sure you will agree, the WT tries to control information reaching it's adherents. So what's the point? Is it the fact that association (don't deny that it's association) with "apostates" on the net is a conscience matter?

  Think back when we were in good standing. Did any of us ever violate any "no-nos" at any time? Sure we did!

  That phrase alone "in good standing" is a cult caption.

  HCM
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  YOU KNOW says "IT's A CONSCIENCE MATTER"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday i asked you know and yardif why they frequent these apostate sites.i asked this question: "how do you justify coming on these boards?".

  you know's answer:"the way i understand it, it is a conscience matter.

  " when i asked whether he was serious, he replied:"i am serious".when i asked him for further clarification, he suddenly vanished from the conversation.

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  HoChiMin

  Minimus;

  It's called a TROLL

  HCM

  Edited by - HoChiMin on 21 August 2002 10:53:16

  Edited by - HoChiMin on 21 August 2002 11:26:14
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  Did you experience favouritism at meetings?

  by haujobbz in

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  as former jw i did witness favouritism towards elders and circuit overseers and also noticed how low status j-dubs actually lined up to speak to the circuit/overseers wife.even outside association seemed to be confined to say elders associating with elders etc.

  i remember when even a sister gave a glass of water to a coughing circuit.overseer but i noticed she never did this to others in the hall.. then for instance how many at the hall formed groupies after meetings not making any effort to gell with others,i felt so sorry for those just sitting on there own.. so why do they act like this, it beats me because a lot of literature and talks focused on not being impartial to others,were they really taking it in or was it a question of congregation status or favouritism towards others.. also outside the meetings association didnt seem to exist and only confined to a certain favoured individuals.

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  HoChiMin

  JW meetings are a social gathering. At any social gathering there will be wall flowers and there will be very outgoing people. The reason it is noticed is they preach this "love" amongst them is a sign they are chosen by God. They are not chosen by God, therefore the result is as it is.

  HCM
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  Aug KM/Shunning Fightback??

  by Latte in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there really no way of getting through to these people??

  life is really too short for putting up with this ignorant kind of behaviour.

  we, as ex-jws know how theyre thinking works, surely if we are going to have to endure shunning for the remainder of our lives we must do/say something to arouse their clear thinking abilities.

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  HoChiMin

  Latte;

  It's difficult to understand ignorant and evil ideas when your not ignorant and evil.

  HCM
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  The Bubble Factor in Being a Witness

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bubble factor in being a witness

  about two days ago after i had the pleasure of listening to my housemate verbally pound a couple of unlucky witnesses who knocked on our door.

  i was sitting in my easy chair this evening eating a piece of apple pie and was struck by this overwhelming revelation, almost an epiphany.

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  Witnesses live almost entirely "in" that bubble environment, looking at themselves as if they were a character in a movie called Im a Jehovahs Witness.

  How true, I remember those days thinking as though I'm always being watched. At a door a householder might ask or state something that I would consciously know is true but contrarry to WT dogma.I could feel my brain fighting to say what was "right" according to the WT, all the time knowing that something was off kilter.

  HCM
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  The Pedophile Paradise

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the pedophile problem among the jws is very significant.

  over a year ago i made some extrapolations from a poll on jwd that conservatively suggested about 5,300 jw molesters in the usa, or about (1) jw pedophile for every (2) jw congregations in the united states.

  given that pedophiles molest many victims, at least 70 or more in their criminal careers by conservative estimates, this can add up to a lot of victims --- not all are necessarily jw victims --- but still the collective crimes of jw pedophiles would average over 370,000 victims.. since that time that over 5,000 victims have come forward to email, phone, and write letters to silentlambs --- as stated last night on connie chung/cnn.

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  Amazing;

  Given the numbers cited for recurring offenders, I would be just as outraged if the number were one victim per offender.

  Yes, I also know of JW perpetrators that victimized children and I have reported them to authorities, although anonymously for fear of WT retribution.

  In my opinion the more number of victims willing to come forward will receive the most attention in the press. The alarming fact is that there are a lot of victims among the Witnesses.

  The cover-up tactics in the name of the WT god is the worst offense of the WT. This fact should be publicized as accurately and as often as possible.

  HCM
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  Connie Chung interviews Bill Bowen TONIGHT

  by Lin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.cnn.com/cnn/programs/connie.chung.tonight/

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  HoChiMin

  Bleep;

  So what does that have to do with silencing an abuse victim?

  HCM
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  Connie Chung interviews Bill Bowen TONIGHT

  by Lin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.cnn.com/cnn/programs/connie.chung.tonight/

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  HoChiMin

  The show was well done, anything to make unsuspecting potential converts slam the door is good to see.

  Also: Bleep, if you were ever an elder for any length of time you would know without a doubt the information presented on CNN ,in regards silencing victims, was accurate.

  HCM
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  CNN show viewed as Persecution by JW

  by JT in

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  i was telling the guys this morning here a work about the cnn show and how in the mind of jw all this public attention for so many of them is often viewed as bible prophecy being fulfilled in their behalf.

  i dare say that in a typical congo of 120 publishers only 4or 5 if that will stop and consider what all this means.

  so one of the guys asked how is that possible with all this stuff going on.i explained to him he needs to understand the indoctrination process for the avg jw.

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  JT;

  I can hear your talk as if I were still there.

  > " I used to say in talks all the time that it is ONLY JW WHO are mentioned in the news, and how Satan is trying to make Jah look bad for example Michael Jackson, almost in every article on MJ they mentioned his faith and I would often ask from the platform " <

  Now I realize the religion of a celebrity that is or becomes a Witness is mentioned by the media because Witnesses are looked at as a nutty cult.

  HCM