I agree, I think we only hear of the bad because that is what they want us to believe. I never have wanted to muder someone and get into drugs and have sex all the time with anyone who happens by. It is all just a buch of lies that they tell to keep us in the lie.
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Why do so many Xjw's not end up in some sort of trouble?
by AK - Jeff inmy observation has been the opposite of agb's in this regard.
i have known of precisely 0 who have turned to gangs/drugs/prostitution after abandonning the lies known as jehovah's witnesses.
most seem to lead lives of quiet hope outside the mainstream religious community once they leave - but far from dangerous lives [even from the jw perspective].. just thought counter-point might be fairplay here.. do xjw's live like jw's?
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Service meeting last week on how to treat DF ones
by tinker ini just learned there was a service meeting part last week on how to treat df ones.
the person i heard this from said it was very hard on many in her congo.
did anyone attend that meeting or has there been discussion here?
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It was the congregation Bible study from the book "Keep Yourselves in God's Love Pages 207-209
HowtoTreataDisfellowshippedPerson
Few things can hurt us more deeply than the pain we suffer when a relative or a close friend is expelled from the congregation for unrepentant sin. How we respond to the Bible’s direction on this matter can reveal the depth of our love for God and of our loyalty to his arrangement. Consider some questions that arise on this subject.
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shouldwetreatadisfellowshippedperson? The Bible says: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.” (1 Corinthians 5:11) Regarding everyone that “does not remain in the teaching of the Christ,” we read: “Never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2 John 9-11) We do not have spiritual or social fellowship with disfellowshipped ones. TheWatchtower of September 15, 1981, page 25, stated: “A simple ‘Hello’ to someone can be the first step that develops into a conversation and maybe even a friendship. Would we want to take that first step with a disfellowshiped person?”Is
strictavoidancereallynecessary? Yes, for several reasons. First, it is a matter of loyalty to God and his Word. We obey Jehovah not only when it is convenient but also when doing so presents real challenges. Love for God moves us to obey all his commandments, recognizing that he is just and loving and that his laws promote the greatest good. (Isaiah 48:17; 1 John 5:3) Second, withdrawing from an unrepentant wrongdoer protects us and the rest of the congregation from spiritual and moral contamination and upholds the congregation’s good name. (1 Corinthians 5:6, 7) Third, our firm stand for Bible principles may even benefit the disfellowshipped one. By supporting the decision of the judicial committee, we may touch the heart of a wrongdoer who thus far has failed to respond to the efforts of the elders to assist him. Losing precious fellowship with loved ones may help him to come “to his senses,” see the seriousness of his wrong, and take steps to return to Jehovah.—Luke 15:17.What
ifarelativeisdisfellowshipped? In such a case, the close bond between family members can pose a real test of loyalty. How should we treat a disfellowshipped relative? We cannot here cover every situation that may arise, but let us focus on two basic ones.In some instances, the disfellowshipped family member may still be living in the same home as part of the immediate household. Since his being disfellowshipped does not sever the family ties, normal day-to-day family activities and dealings may continue. Yet, by his course, the individual has chosen to break the spiritual bond between him and his believing family. So loyal family members can no longer have spiritual fellowship with him. For example, if the disfellowshipped one is present, he would not participate when the family gets together to study the Bible. However, if the disfellowshipped one is a minor child, the parents are still responsible to instruct and discipline him. Hence, loving parents may arrange to conduct a Bible study with the child.—Proverbs 6:20-22; 29:17.
In other cases, the disfellowshipped relative may be living outside the immediate family circle and home. Although there might be a need for limited contact on some rare occasion to care for a necessary family matter, any such contact should be kept to a minimum. Loyal Christian family members do not look for excuses to have dealings with a disfellowshipped relative not living at home. Rather, loyalty to Jehovah and his organization moves them to uphold the Scriptural arrangement of disfellowshipping. Their loyal course has the best interests of the wrongdoer at heart and may help him to benefit from the discipline received.—Hebrews 12:11.
[Footnotes]Bible principles on this subject apply equally to those who disassociate themselves from the congregation.
For more information about disfellowshipped minor children living in the home, see TheWatchtower of October 1, 2001, pages 16-17, and November 15, 1988, page 20.
For more information about how to treat disfellowshipped relatives, see the Scriptural counsel discussed in TheWatchtower of April 15, 1988, pages 26-31, and September 15, 1981, pages 26-31.
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Does anyone know of the religious story like this one.
by verystupid77 ini have been asked to forgive someone that i just cannot forgive.
i was sent this by any elder i guess to make me forgive.
i know that it is a religious story that was made into a jw one.
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Just wanted to bump this up to see if anyone else might have any ideas. Thanks
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Does anyone know of the religious story like this one.
by verystupid77 ini have been asked to forgive someone that i just cannot forgive.
i was sent this by any elder i guess to make me forgive.
i know that it is a religious story that was made into a jw one.
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Good points I never thought of. I shot back to the elder that this was just a stupid religious story that was flooting around have not head back from him. Wonder why?
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Family Worship Night Rule.....
by sweet pea in.
i have it on good authority that at the recent circuit assembly it was announced from the platform that there had been reports of groups of families and friends getting together to study on family worship night and that this was not to continue as fwn is for families only and not for other brothers and sisters to get involved in.. oh, and if you live alone, then you have to study on your own, you alone are your family, you are not to join anyone else's fwn (although i'm sure they didn't mean you couldn't join your blood family's fwn....).
the level of control never ceases to amaze me...... .
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Oh my God. How unbelievably sad, but I know that is true.
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Google is paying $200-$300 everyday to work from home!
by asilentone ini think it is a scam unless someone prove me otherwise!
anyone?.
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An elders wife sent this to everyone right after a meeting, sent us four of them. I emailed back and asked why she sent it. Never heard. Wonder why?
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Does anyone know of the religious story like this one.
by verystupid77 ini have been asked to forgive someone that i just cannot forgive.
i was sent this by any elder i guess to make me forgive.
i know that it is a religious story that was made into a jw one.
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Thanks flipper.
There was really two reasons I wanted to put this on the thread was one I was really hopping someone might know the real story and second I wanted everyone to know the stupid sfuff that is going around the Wittnesses world.
To me it is just mind blogling how crazy this all is. I will talk with you latter Flipper. But this is deffently a cult. And a very scarry one at that.
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Does anyone know of the religious story like this one.
by verystupid77 ini have been asked to forgive someone that i just cannot forgive.
i was sent this by any elder i guess to make me forgive.
i know that it is a religious story that was made into a jw one.
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I have been asked to forgive someone that I just cannot forgive. I was sent this by any elder I guess to make me forgive. I know that it is a religious story that was made into a JW one. Does anyone out there have the original one, I would love to have it. Thanks.vs77
The art of forgiveness
Here is an experience that is good to meditate on
It talks about a young 22 yr old pioneer brother that was out in service.
He went to a door and the householder showed irritation at his presence.
The man told him to wait and he came back armed and shot the brother.
The brother died there. During his trial, the man said that he hated Jehovah's Witnesses and had warned that he would kill the first person to knock on his door.
The man was found guilty and was sentenced to prison. Years later he was released and went back to live in the same house. The brothers in
the congregation were warned and avoided preaching at that house.
But there was a brother that desired to visit that house again. He was advised against it, but he insisted and was given permission to visit the house.
The brother figured that time spent in prison had changed the man. So he went to the murderers home. The man was very surprised to see him
and asked him if he knew that he had killed a witness before. The brother said he did know and this surprised the man. He was curious to know
the kind of man capable of knocking on his door so he invited the brother in and a Bible study was started.
The months passed and the truth became clear to the man. He came to know a God capable of forgiving even the most serious sins. His spiritual progress was evident, but at the invitation of attending the Kingdom Hall, the man declined. He said he couldn't go to the Hall if the parents of the young brother he had killed were not able to forgive him also. The brother told him, "It's not necessary.
Jehovah has forgiven you. He doesn't keep account of what you did before you knew the truth." Even so, the man was reluctant to accept the invitation to the Hall. He insisted in needing the forgiveness from the father of the young brother he had killed.
Otherwise he would not go to the Hall. The brother asked him, "Do you really need that? Do you really need the father of the young man to forgive you?"
When the man told him he did, the brother said to him, "Consider yourself forgiven because I am the father of that young man you killed." Today, both are serving in the same congregation and yearn for the day when Jehovah will bring back to life that young man in the resurrection. The discourse concluded shortly after this, showing the value of genuine forgiveness. Certainly that experience touched the hearts of all that heard it. It's difficult, but not impossible, the art of forgiveness. -
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What Was The Very First Thing That Came Across Your Eyes That Lead You Down The Road To Doubt?
by Yizuman inany of you remember what was exactly the first thing that crossed your eyeballs to lead you into doubting the wts?.
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Pedphiles, pedophiles going out in service with out an elder only their wife or just a young teenager, pedophiles holding children in the Kingdom Hall. Pedophiles coducitng field service, just really pedophiles, pedophiles, pedophiles, It truly is a pedophiles parardise
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Left Some JW Child Abuse News Releases on Windshields at Kingdom Halls
by flipper inwell- this sad news of the girl being murdered and raped in tracy , california motivated me today to leave ap news releases of the wt child abuse out of court settlements of 16 jw victims in car windshields today of jw's who had gone out in field service.
for what it's worth i went to 3 different kingdom halls in 2 towns.
left about 8 on different cars at one kingdom hall, and 5 at another and 7 at another.. you just never know what may happen.
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Right on I think it will do some good. Even if just one reads it it will be worth it. Thanks