Posts by truthlover

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-22-2012 WT Study (HELP MEN)

by blondie in

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john, his brother james, and their father,.

(john 3:1, 2; 19:38) this fear.

overcome fear of man.

truthlover

A couple of questions hit me when this lesson was being presented:

1) OK, going door to door - a sister or two are set to do a presentation - the wife/partner answers - the sister asked to speak with the husband -- kind of a turn off for te wife/mate in this gender equality world we live in -- then if he is not home, she wants to know why you cant speak to her and why do you want him??? Does not look to respectful in her eyes.

2) So now the man, men are flocking into the congregations.(sarcastic)... the reason for this article is that the cong males young and older are not reaching out for "POSITIONS" anymore - like the priests they talk about so much as having serious issues, the males in the congregations are no better. Now the new guys have to go thru a waiting period and that now is about a year for a newly converted male -remember several months ago a lesson stating this fact..... hummm I smell a rat.. we are going to get these newly baptized young squirts to tell the congregations of older age what to do!! Oh my Gawd.....

This lesson turned me OFF!

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Call to legal department Jan 6, 2012

by koolaid-man in

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troubled former witness calls legal department at the watchtower organization.............. dale beckman says, can the "society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?

" in my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin.

" they are told not to even greet me.

truthlover

He does not look too prosperous, he speaks as if he is in depression, who would not be in his situation?? Twice I hear someone at his door, so he must be living with relatives? friends? without a job and the wife getting his business? his home is sold, no job, it is a wonder he has not gone postal. He spoke so calmly to the legal department and says he has Asbergers, I think....

Personally, I think this is the calm before the storm - something is wrong with his wife, I would think, to take her husband the way she has - everything taken, was he that bad a husband, a father, a bread winner? He does not seem to be a bully or tyrant....What is his story? Is there no such thing as 50/50 split when a divorce happens? What is wrong with the judge? I cant figure it out... everything has gone against him..... Did I miss something when he was telling his story? I know the elders do a job on you and they can influence the wife, but the legalities of everything else does not add up.. and if he has nothing how can she get $120,000 from someone who has nothing left?

He definitely needs a lawyer.. contingency.... someone out of state who would take the case...

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Current King James Bible now has 6,972 Jehovah's name restored.

by Iamallcool in

http://www.dnkjb.net/ .

truthlover

From what info I see, it was written by a "brother" - the info that Jehovahs name is in there 6, 972 times is incorrect - only the OT is showing that the Lord is replaced by the name Jehovah... nothing in the NT, apparently the brother spent 4 years travelling?? and the idea came to him in the coffee shop -- where else??

Emails have been sent out not to take this new KJV serious..

apparently in US law, anything after 1935 cant be copied du to the copywrite laws, before 1935 copywrite laws dont exist?? maybe someone could correct me on this and apparently you can copywrite the bible, info, etc IF you change wording , case in point, the KJV - that perhaps is the way the WTBTS was able to print the NWT, by changing words,etc... as well as a lot of other bible translations that are out there today...

TL

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America's Most Wanted seeks fugitive hiding in JW community

by frozen one in

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from the tv show "america's most wanted" on saturday, sept 26: michael calhoun - 39 y/o white male, 6', 210 lbs - convicted of rape and the attempted murder of an elderly woman.

wanted for failing to register as a violent sexual predator in ashtabula county, ohio.

he has psoriasis, is believed to be dealing drugs, and could be hiding out in a jehovah's witness community (amw did not elaborate as to why he could be hiding amongst witnesses).

truthlover

Is this guy still out there?

Tl

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America's Most Wanted episode... Rick McLean

by stillconcerned in

over a month ago, amw filmed several of rick mclean's victims who were victimized while he served in authority in a number of jw congregations in and around san diego, california.. .

mclean found victims thru his involvement in jw congregations, and kept many quiet for years by intimidation/ 'no one will believe you'.. .

the episode is 'in the can', and mclean, who fled when he learned he would be arrested, is on the loose.you can bet he is molesting some child presently; he is a lifetime molester.. .

truthlover

Does anyone know if this perp is still on the lam????

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todays WT study...the picture...?

by stillin in

i wish i could scan it and get your thoughts.

it was a picture of a happy group of witnesses during a meeting for field service.

there was a. comment from a local high-horse-rider about a brother in the front row in the picture being disobedient.

truthlover

Maybe he has a tablet or Iphone and it cant be noticable.. I soon will - looking now - and am taking it to the hall to watch the eys and halos go up! Getting Asus Tablet transformer primce -- quad processor, should cause alittle stir but at the CA there were several folks usning the tablets to take notes.

On another not, does anyone know how many times the inference to "OBEY" was used - not as the specific word, but general wording and infusion of thought that leads to obey the fds and elders --I counted 7 in this lesson today... got a little tired of it in the paragraphs..

They also noted two examples - Abraham and Korah. They did not mention Jehu or Solomon - another two upstanding men who loved and left Jehovah!! Or for that matter Jehu who was so strong for Jehovah and killed people to show his loyalty, left jehovah. Now as we are Jehonadabs -we all know who they are, they have joined to Jehu when he was loyal - was Jehu an antitype of the FDS? If so, he left Jah, he became apostate, where does that leave the FDS and those of us who follow it today as they are always alluding to old testament bring antitypical of the new setup today.. just a thought If the FDS disloyal to Jehovah? Are we Jehonadabs disloyal to God also from following them?

Just a thought

Sometimes it is so hard to sit thru, the paragraph dealing with work, singleness was not even broght up in the answer -I think people are getting tired of it.... lets hope so --

TL

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WTS Dates of Creation of Adam

by Ding in

in "the time is at hand," (1889), russell gave the date of creation of adam as 4129 bce.. now the wts' date for the creation of adam is 4026 bce.. has anyone seen an explanation for how they arrived at these dates?

did they just pull them out of the air?

when did they change their date system and why?.

truthlover

Thanks Jeffro, thats about what I felt and your answer falls in line with that

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WTS Dates of Creation of Adam

by Ding in

in "the time is at hand," (1889), russell gave the date of creation of adam as 4129 bce.. now the wts' date for the creation of adam is 4026 bce.. has anyone seen an explanation for how they arrived at these dates?

did they just pull them out of the air?

when did they change their date system and why?.

truthlover

Blondie - when you say they calculate overlaps -- r u referring to how the bible says so and so died at 80 years of age -- seth died at say 185 years of age, they didnt die exactly on the day they were born, there must have been months not accounted for for every one mentioned in the Israelite nation and lineage down to Christ amounting to a vast amount of time if someone was 80 years plus 10 months, etc. that would be 10 months not counted in the arriving at specific dates......do I make sense?

I always wondered if that would throw the dates factor out the window - even the pivotal dates are under scrutiny i.e. 539/607.. calendars and record keeping from nation to nation were all different, apparently the Jewish calendar seems to be the better of it all... a lot of histories were based on astronomy and so on..

But the months not counted for every male kind of made me wonder how far off everything really is

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2 Day Circuit Assembly

by truthlover in

can anyone out there tell me if the final talk by the do mentioned "marrying outside of the lord"?.

i ask this as the do mentioned that if jehovah were to ask a woman, why did you marry outside, and she had no answer, he would tell her she was disobedient.

then went on to give the spiel on singleness - of course, for a woman, not for a man, who has his choice of women to pick from.....those single should pioneer... .

truthlover

Can anyone out there tell me if the final talk by the DO mentioned "marrying outside of the Lord"?

I ask this as the DO mentioned that if Jehovah were to ask a WOMAN, why did you marry outside, and she had no answer, He would tell her she was DISOBEDIENT. Then went on to give the spiel on singleness - of course, for a woman, not for a man, who has his choice of women to pick from.....those single should pioneer..

This would be a slap in the face for anyone in the audience (a lot of world there as it was sunday) who was in this situation and maybe sitting with HER hubby or vice versa...

I just wondered if it was a universal talk or specific to the area?

Thanks

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The Governing Body and the Sept 15, 2010 WT

by Ultimate Reality in

there have been a few threads on this magazine already.

but i cannot recall a wt that has so many references to the gb and its authority throughout the articles as this one.

the grip of authority and control is tightening.

truthlover

Just resurrecting this thread -- they are still pounding this thought to the pubs.. again this weeks BIBLE study last night -- the governing body of the first century!! -- well continue reading the scripture - it says that the older men, the APOSTLES AND THE CONGREGATION - not just a certain body of men called "THE GOVERNING BODY".... there is a huge difference when the congregation is also included in the making of a directive....

No where was it mentioned that the congregation made an influence on the decision made on circumcision of the gentiles, yet the bible does not lie..they just swipe the info aside and move on with their thought to keep the control.

They can't let go - they are constantly regurgitating the thought of control for their own means..